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What You Need to Know About Diesel Antifreeze and Coolants

In the past there has been much discussion and opinions on antifreeze for our Coaches. I ran into this article on the internet.  Very informative and maybe useful to many here.
Enjoy!
John M.

What You Need to Know About Diesel Antifreeze and Coolants | MotorHome Magazine
John & Carm Morales

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Re: What You Need to Know About Diesel Antifreeze and Coolants

Reply #1
A quick scan of the article showed only one issue-- a problem with many manufacturer's recommendations (remember, most recommendations for coolants for HD diesels are for OTR trucks that pile up a LOT OF MILES):

"If your coach uses these coolants, the main requirement is to ensure that the system is properly filled, and at approximately three-year intervals, most of them require an extender to be added to restore the additive package."

OK as far as it goes, but the FULL STATEMENT is to add the extender after 3 years/300,000 miles. What we determined (worked with engineers at Caterpillar Corp) is that if the extender is added after 3 years and NORMAL MILEAGE ON AN RV (say 10k miles/year) that the addition on an extender "over-dosed" the system.

SO, for 99% of RV's the ELC's are "6 year put it in and forget it/do NOTHING".
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #2
Yup;
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Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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Reply #3
i changed my coolant about a month ago in my 8.3 cummins.  I used prestone command
purple heavy duty concentrate. after properly rinsing out the system i filled with half antifreeze
and half distilled water, and put on a blank water filter. yesterday i checked it with an in
date fleetguard test strip. the test did not give me a good result.
i went to the cummins truck repair shop where i purchased the antifreeze and showed
the head mechanic the test strip. he said you can only expect a reasonable result with the old
style green antifreeze.  the test strips are not accurate with all the new colored long life
antifreeze that is now on the market.  he said just change it every 3 years and don't worry
about it.
i did not tell him it was in an r.v. , so i guess i am good for 6 years.

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Reply #4
Test strips are "Coolant Chemistry" specific.

Contact Prestone help line-- hopefully you will get past the operator.  Ask them exactly what test strips should be used with their coolant.

A common cause of "contamination" is insufficient flushing of the lines through the water heater and heater core.  That is a couple of gallons of  .............
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #5
I got tired of all the hype. Flushed the system.Used Walmarts green 50/50 with their distiled water. Test strips and change when needed..
Chris 
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

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Reply #6
I got tired of all the hype. Flushed the system.Used Walmarts green 50/50 with their distiled water. Test strips and change when needed..
Chris
Chris,
When I get home I will check my supplies. I had the green stuff in my Monaco and bought all the test strips and water filters with the different units of chemical and gallons of the chemical to add to the green when needed. I will message you or call with the supplies and see if you want them.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #7
Be aware that the test strips DO expire.  Pay attention to the expiration date on them.

Chris,
Was the "Walmart green" their low silicate for diesel coolant" or "regular automotive coolant"?

While the Caterpillar 3126 is a parent bore engine, Caterpillar still recommends a coolant formulated for diesels.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

 

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Reply #8
Be aware that the test strips DO expire.  Pay attention to the expiration date on them.

Chris,
Was the "Walmart green" their low silicate for diesel coolant" or "regular automotive coolant"?

While the Caterpillar 3126 is a parent bore engine, Caterpillar still recommends a coolant formulated for diesels.
Yes
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348