Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #25 – February 22, 2019, 10:16:27 pm The Meritor studs are proprietary and when I needed to replace a couple last year I ended up getting them from FOT. That was after I went to two truck places in Knoxville, TN that could order Meritor but the factory said none on hand, Euclid is a big supplier of studs and they had nothing that matched mine, and I think Meritor owns them.Lubing the stud threads is accepted practice as long as you don't get any lube between the nut and wheel face. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #26 – February 22, 2019, 11:05:57 pm Good Lord proprietary wheel studs aka as a license to steal, hope my old coach has old off the shelf stuff, without sounding political what happened to common standards? Don't go there OPP. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #27 – February 22, 2019, 11:08:59 pm MOT charged $88.93 for each lug bolt, plus $20.87 for the back and front nuts. As mentioned above, they changed 6 bolts between the two front wheels. Craig Power reimbursed me for the total charge from MOT, which included two hours of labor, without even looking at the bill. He just handed to the cashier and asked her to pay me, which she did in cash. I know where I will buy my tires in the future! Actually, I bought some tires from them years ago for our '03 soon after we bought it and the company (Herman Power, Nacogdoches) was a pleasure to deal with then. Quote Selected 6 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #28 – February 22, 2019, 11:33:27 pm Here is a short video of the guys at MOT torquing the lug bolts on my back wheel. There is a lot of noise but you can hear the torque wrench "click" when the set torque is reached. https://vimeo.com/319138698 Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #29 – February 23, 2019, 01:32:13 am Quote from: George Hatfield – February 22, 2019, 11:08:59 pmMOT charged $88.93 for each lug bolt, plus $20.87 for the back and front nuts. As mentioned above, they changed 6 bolts between the two front wheels. Craig Power reimbursed me for the total charge from MOT, which included two hours of labor, without even looking at the bill. He just handed to the cashier and asked her to pay me, which she did in cash. I know where I will buy my tires in the future! Actually, I bought some tires from them years ago for our '03 soon after we bought it and the company (Herman Power, Nacogdoches) was a pleasure to deal with then. Thanks for the info and cost, starts to add up when you have 20 lugs on the front axle and 20 on the back. And mine may look suspect on a 30 year old coach. I think I have time And effort to now do it right. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #30 – February 23, 2019, 05:10:58 am What is the part numbers for the studs snd nuts,? Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #31 – February 23, 2019, 08:40:45 am For my 2000, U295 MOT had the following part numbers (see attached). I think that got most of the parts from FOT. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #32 – February 23, 2019, 08:54:47 am 20X2136 by MERITOR - AIR DISC BRAKE - WHEEL STUDThey still are expensive. Package of 2.Pack of 4: Meritor Nut 1227Z1378 1227-Z-1378 | eBay1227Z1378 by AXLETECH - NUT ASSY-WHEEL M22X1.50 Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #33 – February 23, 2019, 09:12:45 am Quote from: Old phart phred – February 23, 2019, 01:32:13 amAnd mine may look suspect on a 30 year old coach. When you put the lug nuts back on and start to torque be alert for any studs that are pulling through rather than tightening. Also, look for any stud threads protruding beyond the nut that are longer than the rest, which also indicates the stud is pulling through. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #34 – March 04, 2019, 06:07:30 pm A bit off the topic, my Daughter just had new tires installed on her car. The car needed a service, I said I will pull the wheels, check the brakes, rotors, and lube the caliber pins. When I went to beak the wheel nuts loose, the wheel wrench would not move them. I held the wrench on the nut , my Daughter pushed down using a four foot snipe ( pipe) to break the nuts loose. A word of caution , check your wheel nuts, you may not be able to loosen them in a case of emergency... After tire repairs, I always loosen , gradually tighten the nuts a minimum of three times, using a star pattern , increasing the Tork each time. Remember, the manufacture designed the wheel wrench so the torque would be correct , even with a "slight" person using the wrench. Safe travels,Dave Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #35 – March 04, 2019, 06:26:20 pm The 2 cars we have,have the Firestone lifetime rotation,they hand torque the wheels.Worked on my son's 2013 ford once and it came with these metal coated lug nuts,one or 2 times off and then throw them awayand get a solid set,took all day to get the old ones off. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #36 – March 05, 2019, 12:30:35 am Here is a screen shot from an Alcoa manual that only gives a lubed value for the two piece flanged lug nut. This is for hub piloted wheels which Foretravel used at least by the 99' model year. According to this chart, the torque value is to be set to 450-500 Ft-Lb.Don Quote from: Protech Racing – February 22, 2019, 03:40:47 pmAlcoa gives lubed value. About 100# less . or 300+-25. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #37 – March 05, 2019, 02:09:06 am Consult your specific alcoa manual, as the same one value fits all is bogus at best. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #38 – March 05, 2019, 10:17:45 am I had 2 damaged bolts a couple of years ago. I found replacements on eBay for $10 per bolt. The tire place ruined the nuts which stripped the bolts and told me it was due to metal fatigue. I'm guessing they were over zealous. They nuts were original so for piece of mind I replaced all of the nuts. Those were also found on eBay. I paid about $100 for a full set. It took a week but I wasn't in a hurry. Quote Selected
Re: Damaged lug bolts Reply #39 – March 05, 2019, 10:29:01 am Quote from: Jeff & Sandy – March 05, 2019, 10:17:45 amI had 2 damaged bolts a couple of years ago. I found replacements on eBay for $10 per bolt. The tire place ruined the nuts which stripped the bolts and told me it was due to metal fatigue. I'm guessing they were over zealous. They nuts were original so for piece of mind I replaced all of the nuts. Those were also found on eBay. I paid about $100 for a full set. It took a week but I wasn't in a hurry.The Budd lugs on your coach are the same as millions of over the road trucks. I have buckets of them here and they will go to scrap, The cost to ship them is more than they are worth. Quote Selected