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Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #25
The Meritor studs are proprietary and when I needed to replace a couple last year I ended up getting them from FOT. That was after I went to two truck places in Knoxville, TN that could order Meritor but the factory said none on hand,  Euclid is a big supplier of studs and they had nothing that matched mine, and I think Meritor owns them.

Lubing the stud threads is accepted practice as long as you don't get any lube between the nut and wheel face.

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #26
Good Lord proprietary wheel studs aka as a license to steal, hope my old coach has old off the shelf stuff, without sounding political what happened to common standards? Don't go there OPP.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #27
MOT charged $88.93 for each lug bolt, plus $20.87 for the back and front nuts.  As mentioned above, they changed 6  bolts between the two front wheels.  Craig Power reimbursed me for the total charge from MOT, which included two hours of labor, without even looking at the bill.  He just handed to the cashier and asked her to pay me, which she did in cash.  I know where I will buy my tires in the future!  Actually, I bought some tires from them years ago for our '03 soon after we bought it and the company (Herman Power, Nacogdoches) was a pleasure to deal with then. 
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George Hatfield

  Never ever use World Line Motors of Nacogdoches for service!

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Reply #28
Here is a short video of the guys at MOT torquing the lug bolts on my back wheel.  There is a lot of noise but you can hear the torque wrench "click" when the set torque is reached. 

https://vimeo.com/319138698

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George Hatfield

  Never ever use World Line Motors of Nacogdoches for service!

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #29
MOT charged $88.93 for each lug bolt, plus $20.87 for the back and front nuts.  As mentioned above, they changed 6  bolts between the two front wheels.  Craig Power reimbursed me for the total charge from MOT, which included two hours of labor, without even looking at the bill.  He just handed to the cashier and asked her to pay me, which she did in cash.  I know where I will buy my tires in the future!  Actually, I bought some tires from them years ago for our '03 soon after we bought it and the company (Herman Power, Nacogdoches) was a pleasure to deal with then. 
Thanks for the info and cost, starts to add up when you have 20 lugs on the front axle and 20 on the back. And mine may look suspect on a 30 year old coach. I think I have time And effort to now do it right.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #30
What is the part numbers for the studs snd nuts,?
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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Reply #31
For my 2000, U295 MOT had the following part numbers (see attached).  I think that got most of the parts from FOT.

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George Hatfield

  Never ever use World Line Motors of Nacogdoches for service!


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Reply #33
And mine may look suspect on a 30 year old coach.

When you put the lug nuts back on and start to torque be alert for any studs that are pulling through rather than tightening. Also, look for any stud threads protruding beyond the nut that are longer than the rest, which also indicates the stud is pulling through.

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Reply #34
A bit off the topic, my Daughter just had new tires installed on her car. The car needed a service, I said I will pull the wheels, check the brakes, rotors, and lube the caliber pins. When I went to beak the wheel nuts loose, the wheel wrench would not move them. I held the wrench on the nut , my Daughter pushed down using a four foot snipe ( pipe) to break the nuts loose.
A word of caution , check your wheel nuts, you may not be able to loosen them in a case of emergency... After tire repairs, I always loosen , gradually tighten the nuts a minimum of three times, using a star pattern , increasing the Tork each time. Remember, the manufacture designed the wheel wrench so the torque would be correct , even with a "slight" person using the wrench.

Safe travels,
Dave
2001 U320 40ft
Build #5867
2003 Tracker
VE7DOD

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #35
The 2 cars we have,have the Firestone lifetime rotation,they hand torque the wheels.
Worked on my son's 2013 ford once and it came with these metal coated lug nuts,one or 2 times off and then throw them away
and get a solid set,took all day to get the old ones off.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #36
Here is a screen shot from an Alcoa manual that only gives a lubed value for the two piece flanged lug nut. This is for hub piloted wheels which Foretravel used at least by the 99' model year. According to this chart, the torque value is to be set to 450-500 Ft-Lb.
Don
Alcoa gives lubed value.  About 100# less . or 300+-25.
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Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #37
Consult your specific alcoa manual, as the same one value fits all is bogus at best.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #38
I had 2 damaged bolts a couple of years ago. I found replacements on eBay for $10 per bolt. The tire place ruined the nuts which stripped the bolts and told me it was due to metal fatigue. I'm guessing they were over zealous. They nuts were original so for piece of mind I replaced all of the nuts. Those were also found on eBay. I paid about $100 for a full set. It took a week but I wasn't in a hurry.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

 

Re: Damaged lug bolts

Reply #39
I had 2 damaged bolts a couple of years ago. I found replacements on eBay for $10 per bolt. The tire place ruined the nuts which stripped the bolts and told me it was due to metal fatigue. I'm guessing they were over zealous. They nuts were original so for piece of mind I replaced all of the nuts. Those were also found on eBay. I paid about $100 for a full set. It took a week but I wasn't in a hurry.
The Budd lugs on your coach are the same as millions of over the road trucks. I have buckets of them here and they will go to scrap, The cost to ship them is more than they are worth.
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