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OBD2 port on these coaches?

Does my '98 U295 have an OBD2 port?
I'm interested in this app for weighing my coach both with and without the towed vehicle attached.
BetterWeigh™ Smartphone Tongue Weight Scale
I have the Cummins 8.3, 325hp engine.
1998 U295 36' No slides
Towing 2018 Jeep Wrangler
Previous rigs:
  1995 26' Fleetwood Flair
  1998 34' Fleetwood Bounder
  1997 40' Bluebird BMC
  1999 24' Winnebago Minnie Class C

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #1 –
You should have a Cummins M11 Celect Plus 450 h.p. which is an electronic engine. Look under the dash by the driver's left knee. Bet you are thinking about a BlueFire bluetooth adapter. Here is the page with illustrations of the three possibilities: BlueFire LLC. FAQ

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #2 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
You should have a Cummins M11 Celect Plus 450 h.p. which is an electronic engine. Look under the dash by the driver's left knee. Bet you are thinking about a BlueFire bluetooth adapter. Here is the page with illustrations of the three possibilities: BlueFire LLC. FAQ

Pierce

98 U295 has a C8.3 - 325hp
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
You should have a Cummins M11 Celect Plus 450 h.p. which is an electronic engine. Look under the dash by the driver's left knee. Bet you are thinking about a BlueFire bluetooth adapter. Here is the page with illustrations of the three possibilities: BlueFire LLC. FAQ

Pierce
If you are thinking of buying the Bluefire adapter, I would buy something else.  I bought one, and it would never stay connected to any of the different platforms I tried, and the last time I tried it, the engine developed a major shudder and sent a fault code of faulty data going to ECM.  While it was shuddering, I removed the Bluefire adapter and it immediately  went away and has never returned in over the 6,000 miles I have put on since.  I tried to email Bluefire about the problem and never even got a response.
2002 36' U270 Foretravel

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #4 –
Which blue fire adapter do you have?  Would you be interested in selling it?
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #5 –
Quote from: jbeem –
If you are thinking of buying the Bluefire adapter, I would buy something else.  I bought one, and it would never stay connected to any of the different platforms I tried, and the last time I tried it, the engine developed a major shudder and sent a fault code of faulty data going to ECM.  While it was shuddering, I removed the Bluefire adapter and it immediately  went away and has never returned in over the 6,000 miles I have put on since.  I tried to email Bluefire about the problem and never even got a response.
I don't doubt your problem. But, I thought an OBD data reader did only just that. Read data. To invoke a shudder there must have been some sort of bluefire internal fault sending spurious electrical or static charges down a wire that shouldn't see such a thing. Where does the bluefire get it's power from? Battery or external 12V or from the port itself.

Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #6 –
The port itself.
2002 36' U270 Foretravel

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #7 –
Quote from: jbeem –
The port itself.
Perhaps that is the issue on this one then. A bit of bleed over voltage from some crud or internal solder issue in the BF.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Dan Keyes –
Does my '98 U295 have an OBD2 port?
I'm interested in this app for weighing my coach both with and without the towed vehicle attached.
BetterWeigh™ Smartphone Tongue Weight Scale
I have the Cummins 8.3, 325hp engine.

This question still looks unanswered.  Quick answer: "no".  The BetterWeigh wants to plug into a standard OBD2 port -- like what's probably in your car.  You don't have one.  You'll likely have a round J1939 Cummins diagnostic port.  Mine was a complete pain to find hidden in the jungle of wires in the kick panel near the driver's left foot.  Easier to find, was a rectangular (OBD2 is trapezoidal) port that is an Allison transmission diagnostic port.

Conceptually, the J1939 and OBD2 do the same thing.  I have no idea if there is any compatibility between the two, but they are physically different connectors.

I use the Scangauge D to monitor gauges and as a trip computer.  The weight/angle/accelerometer stuff needed by BettterWeigh wasn't one of the parameters.  So, even if OBD2 and J1939 were compatible, you may be missing the needed information on the bus.

Roger Engdahl (commercial member) can probably tell you if anything like that shows up on the VMSpc.  If not, you probably don't have the information BetterWeigh needs to operate -- even if you crafted your own with a Raspberry Pi.
Rick and Donna
1997 U320 4000 WTBI Build 5152 "Molesley"

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #9 –
I would try the blue fire adapter on another coach to see if the problem is coach or adapter.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer
 

Re: OBD2 port on these coaches?

Reply #10 –
I have aScangauge D that came with the coach and it works fine, so it is the adapter. 
2002 36' U270 Foretravel