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Radiator removal

How big of a job to remove a radiator in a 1999 U270 with 8.3 cummins  now may hr too remove and install
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #1
Took me about 14 hrs total , working  at my own pace, I got it all loose and my fan moved away from the shroud and used a fork lift to lower it down.
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

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Reply #2
Thanks I was told by a shop it was a two day job just to get it out they won't $1600.00 to do the job I think I'm going to take it out my self
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #3
Rick, I took mine our went to harbor freight and bought a roll around lift table that goes up to about 30".  Used it to lower CAC and radiator.  I didn't keep up with time but don't remember it being that bad.  Wouldn't hesitate to do it again, hope I don't have to but would do it.  while I was doing everything I installed a wax valve fan control and replaces the engine thermostat and all hoses.
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

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Reply #4
 Now that you say that I have a hydraulic table and I also have a  forklift and tools just not familiar with these couch's and Diesel engine and I would like too change all rad hose and hydraulic hoses I had a hydraulic hose burst the other day on the fans made it to a Farm  tractor place and they repair it in under an hour  part ,labour, oil, tax  under $300. That was one of the cheapest repairs I've had in a long time so far in 2020 had too do Bulkhead steering box and now I need a rad but I love this coach

Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #5
Since I have full body paint I didn't want to remove body panels.  I removed the cross brace in the rear and slid it out backwards on a harbor freight transmission scissor jack.  The fans and shrouds just dangled there.  About 4 hours out, and 4 hours reinstall and I'm inexperienced.  If you could lift the coach and drop it down it'd be crazy easy.

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Reply #6
I will check that option out
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #7
Anyone have any pictures of the radiator complete out it looks like the radiator is in a frame is it hard for a shop to Recore 
Can you get a remanufactured radiator ready to go in or just fine a rad shop and have it done it looks to be a very heavy duty rad
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #8
This is the only one I have, and yes they can be recored
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #9
They look very Heavy duty look at the size Gauge of steel tank on that I didn't realize you had two radiators one on each side I presume
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #10
Only one radiator the opposite side on unicoaches has an air conditioning condenser.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #11
The radiator has end tanks that bolted to core headers with gaskets. The radiator is very rebuildable unless the fins and tubes are rotted. Any heavy truck radiator shop can take care of it.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #12
Rick, I did the job three years ago, documenting everything and posted a lot of photos.  If you put radiator and "Sven" in your search box you should get everything you need.  I used two motorcycle jacks (less than $100 each at HF) to lower and raise and my tractor to move the radiators from and to the coach.  I also replaced all of my hoses at that time as well as the CAC and transmission cooler.  Saved a fortune on labor and bought materials directly from the manufacturers instead of FT.  I found it necessary to remove body panels, which was fairly simple given that the screws holding the trip were exposed.  I also have full body paint and I may have lost a little that were on the screws themselves.  See my photos.
Let me know if you have questions.
Sven
2000 U320 mid entry  #5688
2006 Jeep Liberty


USMCR retired
SDFD retired
FEMA US&R TF8

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Reply #13
Thanks going to look it up
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

Re: Radiator removal

Reply #14
We took on this task of replacing the radiator this spring in Ron's (Redtractor) side yard/driveway. Although my coach has the M11 engine, likely similar steps to get it out and back in...

I looked carefully at Sven's posting of his experience, great tips and photos. Ron (redtractor) had all the experience! We parked the Fortravel so the rear-end was over the edge of where the gravel sloped down, in order to clear the side of the coach. Used one HF motorcycle jack to begin lowering the unit down. The problem is the last 12 inches or so to get the radiator on the ground to pull it out and away from the coach was a challenge.  Ron came up with a really simple but ingenious means to do this safely! It's heavy and awkward to muscle out.... He got some 3/4" threaded rod. We threaded this into the upper coach mounts and used washers and nuts to capture the radiator that was resting in the lowered motorcycle lift. Once we had that connected, lifted slightly with the 3/4" threaded rods, and removed the lift. The radiator was safely "hanging". Then used the threaded rod to lower to the ground, where we used Ron's tractor with forks to pull the assembly away, and bring the new radiator in, (once assembled).

Took two days to do the job. It's dirty, its bull work, but can be accomplished. As you see from the photos, we left the fan motorsunder the coach, but had to disconnect the hydraulic lines to get the radiator out. Ron used different colored zip ties to identify hoses and mating fittings on the motors.

Jeff
Jeff & Kristen
2002 U320 build #6039
Living the Dream!

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Reply #15
Thanks for the tips everyone has giving me    I'm getting a good foresight in this job going to change all hydraulic lines and rad hoses on this job I had a hydraulic hose on fan motor blow on the road last week the Rad  fins Look good the leak  is coming down on the in side of the tank and can't see with Fan cowling it not a very big leak there just dry up antifreeze I add antifreeze  every couple of thousands miles just enough to keep you worrying about it on every trip
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

 

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Reply #16
A lot of us have successfully used Bars Leaks to stop small radiator leaks for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R