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Brake parts looking for information

Looking for brake part number  pads ,rotors, Callipers
What make of brakes are on our coach
Looking  for brands and parts number  for these parts
And what type of grease and brand they say clay grease I ask for clay grease at auto part store and they don't know what I'm looking for will any high temperature grease do
In Canada and Foretravel does not exist in any auto parts store or heavy truck auto parts stores having hard time looking for  parts even on Amazon I Punch in for Foretravel  or Findapart  I get brake but which ones what is the part number and Brand  so I can even try to cross reference Here in Canada  I started to make a book writing  down every parts And part number down so if I need it now or for later use. Just trying to do as much Pre maintenance
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

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Reply #1
Rick,

Another member will undoubtedly supply the brake parts numbers.  Can't help you there.

But, if you are interested in general parts numbers, have you seen the Part Number Collection thread?  Our good friend Barry Beam started the project 10 years ago.  Additions to the list are made in a sporadic way.  I wish we had more active participation by all members (including me).

You might find some useful numbers by scrolling through the whole thread?

Part Number Collection
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
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Reply #2
Rick, look at this website, it is for merit brakes, might help find what you need,

graphicvillage.org/meritor/pb1461.pdf

Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

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Reply #3
The brakes are most likely Meritor.

Meritor Grease

Please verify these are the correct part numbers for your make/model, but below are some part numbers I gleaned from prior posts.

Meritor Kit 15625PM  Shoe and lining kit for Air Disk Brake Pad
Meritor Genuine Air Disc Brake Rotor 3218K167
Meritor Kit 15018 Air Disk Brake Spring Kit
Meritor Kit 15013 Air Disk Brake Slide Pin Kit
Meritor Genuine Air Disk Brake Shoe Grease A1779W283
Meritor  KIT-15016 Slide pins and all the hardware[
If you want just the pins and not all the other hardware you need 1259-A-287
40ft 1997 U320



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Reply #6

Other than purchasing what the manufacturer recommends, a Google search for "high temperature clay filled grease" turns up lots of options:

Jet-Lube AP-1 - High Temperature | Multipurpose Grease | Water-resistant |...

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1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
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Reply #7
When you have some time, you might watch this Meritor Air Disk Brakes Maintenance video.  It is old, and a little long, but was informative for me.  I often play youtube on 1.25, 1.5 or 2x speed until it hits something interesting....especially to get through the intro fluff.
40ft 1997 U320

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Reply #8
The Brake Rotor 3218K167 listed above is for the rear.
The Meritor # for the front rotor is 3218-Y1065.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

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Reply #9
And what ever you might do or have done. It is imperative that you install the slide pin helper springs. A great many brakes have been ruined (MINE included) from sticky slide pins. The springs are an additional part that was created by Meritor to help prevent slide pins from sticking. Slide pins and the bore they ride in (as i understand) are not to be lubricated with grease.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
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And what ever you might do or have done. It is imperative that you install the slide pin helper springs. A great many brakes have been ruined (MINE included) from sticky slide pins. The springs are an additional part that was created by Meritor to help prevent slide pins from sticking. Slide pins and the bore they ride in (as i understand) are not to be lubricated, Just cleaned.
Jerry the myth that they are not to be lubricated was just in a previous post and the meritor manual was quoted to use a lubricant. I think it was WD 40 but will find the link and post. Read the link in reply #14 WD40 or CRC lube.

Worn brake life
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #11
Jerry the myth that they are not to be lubricated was just in a previous post and the meritor manual was quoted to use a lubricant. I think it was WD 40 but will find the link and post. Read the link in reply #14 WD40 or CRC lube.

Worn brake life
I saw that in the linked maint. video and updated my post.

Seems odd as WD-40 won't last long at all when exposed to water and road grime. And ANY oil no mater how light weight it is will attract dust. But of course I will defer to the maint experts.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #12
Silicone spray
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #13
Not what Meritor recommends see previous post with link to Meritor shop manual.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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I had my brake pins serviced today. They all looked good from a simple visual inspection, but when pulled every single one was pitted and scored. Had the helper springs installed on new pins. 22 year old coach, 76,000 miles.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

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Reply #15
In my reading of the shop manual I can find no recommendations for lubing the pins.

"Apply anti-seize compound to the slide pin retainer. DO NOT apply anti-seize compound to the threads of the retainer or to the slide pin."

Any lube retains dirt.  Hard chrome in a bronze oilite bushing is self lubing.  My caliper bushing were worn.  The Cummins dealer replaced them and installed new pins. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #16
In my reading of the shop manual I can find no recommendations for lubing the pins.

"Apply anti-seize compound to the slide pin retainer. DO NOT apply anti-seize compound to the threads of the retainer or to the slide pin."

Any lube retains dirt.  Hard chrome in a bronze oilite bushing is self lubing.  My caliper bushing were worn.  The Cummins dealer replaced them and installed new pins.
in the link page 40 18a
https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=1701
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #17
The retainer pin needs anti seize.  Silastic seal on inner end of pin.  No reference to lubing pin. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #18
RE:Caflash Pin Lub

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Reply #19
Thanks I don't know how to make it that plain. I thought a page and line number would suffice.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

 

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Reply #20
thanks. 

Water spray will/may  remove CRC and especially  wd 40 during use.  As does time exposed to air.  The CRC is a good storage spray for my watercraft.  Must be reapplied periodically during storage if used as  preservation agent.

The "similar" quote would seemingly also apply to the silicone spray I mentioned.

Boeing developed its own lube/water displacement/preservative called T-9 which I use on my stored motorcycle engine parts as they noted the complete dissipation of the second generation of WD40 over time.

Original WD 40 was from rocket chemicals and in spray form was flammable.  We used to use it to start drowned watercraft engines. The later versions were not as useful and were totally gone from surfaces over time.

Not for this application as it does not dissipate totally.

 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4