Hissing sound - Outside and high up bedroom slide

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Reply #25 – June 09, 2021, 05:09:32 pm

Has anyone removed the lock cylinder for the Tri/Mark lock in the storage compartments? Pictures attached.

FT told me that there is a number on the lock cylinder that will tell me which T7 key I'll need.

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Reply #26 – June 09, 2021, 06:42:07 pm

You need a master key to be able to remove the tumblers. I thought that the number is stamped on the key

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Reply #27 – June 10, 2021, 12:22:45 pm

I just got back from a visit to the locksmith. Got two keys made. Now I can get into all the storage compartments.

I turned the manual air valve to the bedroom slide off. The batteries are discharged but I'll be changing the engine batteries this weekend. I'll then test to see that there is no other drain that would damage them. If I find an unreasonable drain from the chassis battery, I will disconnect them and keep testing. If everything is good, I will use the boost switch to turn the generator on. I will then charge the 1 8D 225 AH house battery that I still have connected. The next priority job is to drive the RV about an hour to install the Michelin X Coach tires and the Centramatics.

Here is what the locksmith told me:

1 - There is no way to change the cylinder in my lock. See picture.

2 - What she did was to use the idea proposed by Scott above. She used a blank and kept filing away at the blank until the key worked.

3 - She broke two blanks in the process of working the lock that I gave her. She says it is not that the lock is old. It's just the way those locks are designed. They're hard to work, especially when not lubricated properly.

4 - To open and lock, it is just a 1/4 turn. Key only goes in one way. You have to make sure the key is all the way in. If it doesn't open or close, don't force it. She says with those locks you may have to go back and forth a few times to get them to close. She told me that there is no heavier duty material that she could use for the key for that lock.

5 - She recommends lubricating those locks often.

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Reply #28 – June 10, 2021, 12:32:06 pm

So as I said after I saw how it was done it isn't that difficult. I had ordered a lot of ten blanks and actually have a bunch left over. I was happier with my own key than the one the lock smith cut because I was able to tune it to all the other locks. I've taped a spare key under the coach with aluminum tape and sprayed black paint to hide it in case I ever need to break in. I keep spare keys inside a locked panel so I can get in without the need of a locksmith or damaging something to get in. Shame we even need to lock anything. Even worse when we lock our self's out. Glad it worked out.
Scott

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Reply #29 – June 10, 2021, 12:43:42 pm

What lubricant does she recommend?

Most oils will attract dirt and really gum them up. Driving down the road exposes coach basement locks to a whole different set of issues than house locks.

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Reply #30 – June 10, 2021, 01:06:18 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 10, 2021, 12:43:42 pm

What lubricant does she recommend?

Most oils will attract dirt and really gum them up. Driving down the road exposes coach basement locks to a whole different set of issues than house locks.

A very good question. Knowing what a locksmith recommends would be nice.
I have always used a Dry Graphite Lube. Can be a little messy, but does not attract dirt, etc.

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Reply #31 – June 10, 2021, 01:13:52 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 10, 2021, 12:43:42 pm

What lubricant does she recommend?

Most oils will attract dirt and really gum them up. Driving down the road exposes coach basement locks to a whole different set of issues than house locks.

She didn't recommend any. I told her I had lubricated the locks and she asked me what I had used. I told her "3-in-one Lock Dry Lube". She said that was fine. I asked her if there was anything else that she may have in the shop that I could use instead, and she said no. The locks are definitely working nicely after multiple applications of that stuff over a week or so.

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Reply #32 – June 10, 2021, 01:18:57 pm

Quote from: cucotx – June 10, 2021, 01:13:52 pm

She didn't recommend any. I told her I had lubricated the locks and she asked me what I had used. I told her "3-in-one Lock Dry Lube". She said that was fine. I asked her if there was anything else that she may have in the shop that I could use instead, and she said no. The locks are definitely working nicely after multiple applications of that stuff over a week or so.

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Reply #33 – June 10, 2021, 04:21:23 pm

Bay doors can always be unlocked with a key even if the actuators fail. The rest of the latching mechanism, cables and links .. well that is a different task.

The OEM keys are brass, latch lockes get stiff, keys twist off and break. There are steel keys that will work..
Bay door keys

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Reply #34 – June 10, 2021, 05:15:27 pm

I had success with this.

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Reply #35 – June 10, 2021, 10:56:45 pm

This one works well too.
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Reply #36 – June 11, 2021, 05:50:46 pm

Chassis batteries in (3 of X2Power AGM Group 31). Manual air valve to bedroom slide is working. So yep, it does seem that I do have a leak in the bedroom slide bladder. If I can't find a local place that can do this work, the bedroom slide will stay in until I can make it to FOT next year.

There was a 100 W drain on the chassis batteries for a few minutes after I connected them. After that, just 0.2 Amp drain. Nice.

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Reply #37 – June 25, 2021, 09:47:18 pm

I contacted FOT to see if they could recommend a place on the east coast to fix the leak in the bedroom slide. They gave me a name to contact in FL, Paul Yasbeck. Is that name familiar to anyone here? Is Paul online

I'm still hopeful that I can find someone closer to N.J.

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Reply #38 – June 25, 2021, 10:08:04 pm

Contact HWH tech help (if you can) and see who they recommend near you. Whoever is re-doing the bladders has to be getting them from HWH.

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Reply #39 – June 25, 2021, 10:19:27 pm

Quote from: cucotx – June 05, 2021, 08:18:32 am

Hi Barry & Cindy,

Not sure what to do for the chassis batteries. As you suggest, a high amperage manual switch would work with the chassis batteries, but it probably would only get used after the leak is first noticed. That is, you would want power from the chassis ON most of the time so the air bags and slide seals are kept inflated, correct?

When stored, I raise up the coach and put in safety pipes so it doesn't come down on the air bags. I've been told not to worry about slide seals deflating since they still seal against rain at ambient air pressure.

Of course there can be a problem if the bladder is cut that might allow water in no matter what the air pressure.

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Reply #40 – June 25, 2021, 11:07:01 pm

Quote from: cucotx – June 25, 2021, 09:47:18 pm

I contacted FOT to see if they could recommend a place on the east coast to fix the leak in the bedroom slide. They gave me a name to contact in FL, Paul Yasbeck. Is that name familiar to anyone here? Is Paul online

I'm still hopeful that I can find someone closer to N.J.

Paul@yasbeckconstruction.com

While motorhome repair is not his primary business, he is very knowledgeable of Foretravels, has helped a number of forum members. Best to contact him to see if he can take on your job. 352-728-0775 (mobile), 813-382-0869 (work)

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Reply #41 – June 26, 2021, 04:47:27 am

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Reply #42 – June 26, 2021, 09:51:16 am

Quote from: master2301 – June 26, 2021, 04:47:27 am

Keystone RV Center (MD) 15799 S. Young Rd. Greencastle PENN 17225 800-232-3279 PA RV DEALER | RV SALES, SERVICE & PARTS | PA Foretravel Authorized

New Jersey Risco Inc. 137 Allaire Rd. Farmingdale, NJ 07727 732-872-7722 www.riscorv.com

I've been to both of these when I lived in NJ over 10 years ago. My experiences are therefore outdated but for what its worth:

You should verify that Keystone is still Foretravel Authorized. They seemed to had limited Foretravel knowledge but the work I had done was more generic. They did stand by their work - after something was not done right, they immediately fixed it.

Risco was overwhelmed when I went there. They took the work but the time to finish kept moving. It seemed that they got a lot of work over the winter and expected coaches to be left there. I was in a different situation so it was rather frustrating. They did winterize the coach at no cost to me.

Again, my knowledge is over 10 years old.

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Reply #43 – June 26, 2021, 10:10:51 am

Yea. I think I'll wait until August. By then, I hope to be on my way south. That list provided by Larry/Becky above has two Foretravel authorized centers in TN. Hopefully one of them has done this kind of work before.

BTW, does anyone know where the air exhaust for the bedroom slide seal is? But, most likely part of the valve assembly in the inverter bay. I just haven't had a chance to check the bedroom seal carefully to try to locate the source of the leak. I'm just wondering if the exhaust port valve is stuck open. That would be less expensive than an air leak!

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Reply #44 – June 26, 2021, 04:17:28 pm

Quote from: cucotx – June 26, 2021, 10:10:51 am

Yea. I think I'll wait until August. By then, I hope to be on my way south. That list provided by Larry/Becky above has two Foretravel authorized centers in TN. Hopefully one of them has done this kind of work before.

BTW, does anyone know where the air exhaust for the bedroom slide seal is? But, most likely part of the valve assembly in the inverter bay. I just haven't had a chance to check the bedroom seal carefully to try to locate the source of the leak. I'm just wondering if the exhaust port valve is stuck open. That would be less expensive than an air leak!

The list is outdated. It lists TN RV, which was bought by Lazydays a few years ago. I'd take it someplace else. 😇.

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Reply #45 – June 26, 2021, 04:21:32 pm

Peter, there is no exhaust port. Vacuum and filling the bladder is controlled by the 12VDC pump and manifold.

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Reply #46 – July 01, 2021, 10:10:45 am

Found leak. Got lucky. It's on the outside of bladder. See pictures.

Now, off to Home Depot to pick up some Flex Seal. Has anyone here used Flex Seal for this or similar patch in the past?

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Reply #47 – July 01, 2021, 10:33:16 am

I don't think Flex Seal will fix it. You've got a lot of age/weather cracking going on there. Coach Bucks is the answer.

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Reply #48 – July 01, 2021, 10:48:20 am

Quote from: Travelin' Man – July 01, 2021, 10:33:16 am

I don't think Flex Seal will fix it. You've got a lot of age/weather cracking going on there. Coach Bucks is the answer.

I'm looking for a temporary fix until I can make it to TX. The rest of the seal looks to be in good shape. So for now, I just need to keep patching that one spot. Unfortunately, I have not located a service center in the East Coast that I would trust with this work.

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