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Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Hya all, anyone help me with this problem, about 2 weeks ago I noticed that the outer edge of my windscreen has fogged up around the edges, I've tried cleaning outside and inside with all the best stuff, and still can't get rid of it, I've come to the  conclusion that it's actually spreading from within the glass itself, is it moisture a. chemical reaction of some sort, im totally confused to what is causing this, I've gone round the outside with a bead of sealent all round thinking air may be getting in, but over the last couple of days it seems to be creeping in further around the glass, is there anything I can do to stop it spreading further, as it is at the moment, it's not enough to fail my mot test, and I have thought about spraying a dark tint all round the edges, I'm not sure what to do, any suggestions?
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #1 –
What is happening to your windscreen is typical of some old glass windows.
Our 1989 GV is doing the same thing.
Only remedy I know of is total replacement of the glass.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #2 –
Ours has it.  Old laminated auto "safety" glass getting foggy around the edges is very common.  Irritating, but not enough so to warrant glass replacement, unless you also have other problems (cracks, bullet holes).  It's not in the area you normally look through when driving, so just try to ignore it.  After a while, you won't even "see" it anymore.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #3 –
Be aware that Kevo0000 has to deal with an extreme inspection criteria in the UK. Having lived there many years ago, the inspection is more extreme than California's.
Future Foretravel Owners
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Retired USAF, Retired DOD Civ's
FAA A&P, Indust. Eng., Acft Depot Lvl. Maint.
Larry and Becky Rountree

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #4 –
Quote from: master2301 –
...the inspection is more extreme than California's.
Good information!  Did not know that.  Condolences to Kev.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #5 –
Sometimes an "accident" involving glass is partially covered by insurance...just saying.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #6 –
, Thanks for that info chuck, your right it won't bother me once I've covered it with dark tint, as for masters comment about our testing system over here, he is also correct about our strict testing, I have checked and as long as I have got a minimum of 75% visability, I would be OK with that, all I'm concerned about is that it dosent keep creeping in cause eventually it will fail the test and will have to get a new windscreen, its worse on the corners for some reason the vertical and horizontal part of screen is not as thick, chuck did yours get to a certain point and not come in any more?
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #7 –
Looks like ours when we bought it 13 years ago. Has not gotten any worse.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #8 –
Quote from: nitehawk –
Sometimes an "accident" involving glass is partially covered by insurance...just saying.
Or a brick through the window,  most insurances over here give you windscreen cover over here but would they be able to supply me with a new screen, are they still available over there?
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #9 –
Kev,
Everything is available in the land of convenience if you've got the money, but how it would get to you is another story.
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #10 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
Looks like ours when we bought it 13 years ago. Has not gotten any worse.

Pierce
Thanks pierce, that's give me a bit of piece of mind, i did see the other day  that the plastic trim gives off a gas when it's hot and reacts to the glass and can cause a misting, I did ring up this glass company the other day, and all the woman tried to do was tell me where to go and buy some special glass cleaner, I tried to tell her that it's not on the glass inside or out and that it was in the glass itself, white vineger and water is the best stuff to use and wipe it off with news paper and it comes up gleaming, and I said to her if that don't get it off nothing will,
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #11 –
Quote from: Olde English –
Kev,
Everything is available in the land of convenience if you've got the money, but how it would get to you is another story.
Yeah absolutely, il just live in hope that it stops going any further and face the problem if it gets bigger
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #12 –
Not related really but I was surprised to hear from a mate of mine up in Filey that he had to pass a test to drive the class C he bought this year. Place gets stranger.
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Olde English –
Not related really but I was surprised to hear from a mate of mine up in Filey that he had to pass a test to drive the class C he bought this year. Place gets stranger.
What's that Filey up near Scarborough?, yeah they getting a bit strick on caravans and motorhome over here, my rv obviously is a class a and because it's 10 ton approx, it's tax class is a private hgv,
It comes under the same rate as a showman licence, fair or circus, its been £165.00 a year to tax it since I've had it, never seems to go up,technically you would need at least a class 3 licence to drive it, I have my class 1 anyway so not a problem for me, but some of the American motorhome over here are as big but only petrol engine and there just under 7.5 ton, so anyone with a car licence that passed there test before sutch a date can drive one, frightening really cause alot of people have never driven anything other than a car, so since the virus people been going out and buying or renting motor homes, and they have even been making people take tests for towing caravans,
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #14 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
Looks like ours when we bought it 13 years ago. Has not gotten any worse.

Pierce
I'm thinking that this problem with the screen, is probably the seals, there's air getting in, I've run a bead of sealent all round the outside passenger and driver side, so Ive just made a start masking up the inside ready for tommorrow, it's just a thought these seals are 30 year old and I have noticed that in places there getting a bit worn, so if I can at least make it air tight that might stop it spreading any further, it's been parked here in the same position for 10 years no problem, and then suddenly I noticed it, I can only try
1990 foretravel grandvilla, Oshkosh chassis
8.2ltr Detroit turbo

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #15 –
Not that it will fix anything but is this foggy windshield a sourcing problem?
My coach was completed in late 87 early 88, both yours and Pierce's coach are 90's build. Just another out of the box thought.
And the survey says ???
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #16 –
This occurs on many laminated windshields. If it has DOT and AS1 on it, it may get the edge fog. In rare cases, it may spread out from the edges.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #17 –
Quote from: kevo0000 –
chuck did yours get to a certain point and not come in any more?
Same answer as Pierce - ours came to us with slightly fogged around-the-edges OEM glass (both sides).  Has not changed (gotten worse) in 8 years we've had possession.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"
 

Re: Windscreen problem on my 1990 foretravel grand villa

Reply #18 –
Our '93 windshields have the same issue. Not a problem.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344