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Installing LED backup lights

Finished installing new LED back up lights.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #1
Did you have to use diodes? I had to. You might consider connecting rear landing lights into reverse light. Easy to do diodes.
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #2
Did you have to use diodes? I had to. You might consider connecting rear landing lights into reverse light. Easy to do diodes.

Just curious what do the diodes do?
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2003 U320T 4025 PBBS Designer series
Build 6203    Cummins 500hp
2000 U320 4010 WTFE / Build 5762 —Sold—
Motorcade #18070   
Pasadena, Texas
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara-Sunset Orange pearl coat
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Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #3
I haven't tried to use them yet as I need to start the engine and put it in reverse. I don't see why they
won't work or why I would need diodes, but then most things I have done on this coach end up
not being simple.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #4
I installed LED bulbs in my tail lights, and they were wacky. Fine print said you will need resistors. I ordered them, installed them, and they work now.

Sorry I said diodes by mistake

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Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #5
I haven't tried to use them yet as I need to start the engine and put it in reverse. I don't see why they
won't work or why I would need diodes, but then most things I have done on this coach end up
not being simple.
Sorry, said diodes, I ment Resistors. But if you want to tie the landing lights into backup lights, you need diodes for that.

Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #6
Why would I need resistors. I'm tying 12 volts lights into a 12 volt circuit.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #7
There is not enough resistance in the led's to make the flasher slow down to normal.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #8
Why would I need resistors. I'm tying 12 volts lights into a 12 volt circuit.
If you are doing turn signals all the old controllers operate off light bulb resistance. They flash real fast when a bulb is bad. LEDs don't use enough power, so you need to go to a timed signal controller or add additional load resistors.Also my real smart dodge truck will not accept led headlights because it thinks they are bad and will turn the circuit off, so everyone used resistors to fool the computer controlled fuse box. Way to smart for me,but you can go into the box with the correct scan tool and change the operational limits to make them play nicely. Pita same thing with the starter solenoid. Bad batteries have low voltage and will draw too much amperage and it will lock you out of cranking even thou it will start if you bypass the brains.
Scott

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #9
These are backup lights and tied into the backup light circuit so they only come on when in reverse so I can
see in those dark winter nights when I'm backing up to a snow bank.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #10
I am not seeing why one would need resistors for backup lights. No turn flasher involved. I bet these will work just fine. Install looks clean, nice work!

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #11
No need for diodes in any lights other than turn signals. I should have paid more attention to the title.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #12
Lights look great! Super bright and inexpensive. I bought a pair and a couple of larger for the front to replace the fog lights but not had time to install yet. Good placement as the stock BU lights don't do much at night.

Not like the "old" days with dozens of posts now every day. Hard to speed read without making a mistake.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #13
I would like to find ones for fog lights that are DOT approved. I put them in the Monaco and
I had and I had to put in a relay so they wouldn't work in low beam as they would blind the
on coming drivers.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #14
Backup Lights Connection  to Docking Lights

Use 3-5 amp diodes, buy in bulk at Amazon.  Double them up for redundancy, use heat shrink connectors and dielectric grease on anything exposed.  Works well.

Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #15

Thanks Roger for sharing the diagram, and thanks for giving me the idea. Works awesome, especially backing into the shop.

I used these, already had them:

Hopkins 48955 Towed Vehicle Diodes Kit Towing Systems RV Trailer Camper...

Or these also work:

Amazon.com: Roadmaster 792 Hy-Power Diode, (Pack of 2): Automotive

Chris




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Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #16
I just notice today that the left hand back up light needed some grinding of the cooling fins to clear the
air filter. That or a modification to the air filter lid.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #17
I started the engine today and the backup lights work fine. All I did was wire
them in parallel with the original back up lights. I couldn't see any reason for
diodes and if I was going to wire them up to the rear docking lights I would
do it the same. Keep it simple. One of these days I will see how they work in
the dark.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #18
Docking lights are wired up and switched left and right.  If you want both rear docking lights to come on when the backup lights are on and not the front docking lights then you need diodes.  If you wire docking lights in parallel to the backup lights without diodes you will have no left/right control.

Easy enough to do the wiring with diodes and keep all original functionality and add the rear docking lights to the backup lighting.  Your choice.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #19
Roger that makes sense and as I only wanted them working from the
backup lights it was simple.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #20
I bought a 20 pack of diodes and a half dozen Bosch relays and somehow most have found a place for new functions in my coach.  They are cheap and add lots of functionality.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #21
One would only need resistors if you were wiring in the LED's to replace the original backup lights.  I believe oldguy has tapped them in parallel to the original backup lights, so no resistors needed.  Being LED, I'm sure they don't draw much.
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #22
The new LED backup lights sure made a difference and then I changed the OEM bulbs
to LED superbright bulbs and then that helped. I am satisfied with the results.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #23
 I'm thinking about mounting the  LED back up lights on the roof corners.

 

Re: Installing LED backup lights

Reply #24
I'm thinking about mounting the  LED back up lights on the roof corners.
I put two cube lights on my cargo trailer and have wired into reverse circuit and added a extra power switch to the trailer battery to turn them on separately from inside the trailer as flood lights. Works great, although I can't recall the last time I used trailer for anything other than storage now