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Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Hi everyone ,
Time to hit the head!

Had the occasional odor & recently the blade mechanism was not opening every time, it's an electric flush. Upon reaching to manually open the blade mechanism I had some water on my hand. I put a blue paper towel down to see if I had a drip but nothing.

I shut the water off at the manifold and pulled the fuse under the bed and at the toilet.  and currently have the toilet out and have removed the pieces I am going to replace. You can see where the water was coming from the blade mechanism .

I will add to this post when I do the reinstall.

The toilet was sealed with silicone front and sides which took some time to remove, and I had to remove some adhesive sealant from the underside of the bowl.



Frank & Daisy
NO LONGER  "looking for the perfect Foretravel
36' or less non slide preferred."  She has been found and is ours.
2003 U320 36' non slide  Unit 6103
Cummins ISM 450
Allison 4000MH

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #1 –
LT 403
Aside from the issue you are referring to, how do you like that model. I am considering that as a replacement for my Microfor.  As a note there is NOTHING wrong with my 210 microfor. I just am being pro active and like the looks of the deluxe as well
Peter
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #2 –
Peter, the SeaLand foot operated toilet has a more robust, easy to maintain mechanism.  Replaced my broken Aria that had to be removed to be fixed with the Sealand that can be maintained in place.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #3 –
Hi Peter,
We like the toilet a lot. This is our first Rv so it's the only toilet we know.
So far removal has been easy. Soaking some parts overnight that have hard residue. Tomorrow I'll reinstall everything if it cleans up to my satisfaction.
It's the tall toilet, all ceramic with electric flush.
Frank & Daisy
NO LONGER  "looking for the perfect Foretravel
36' or less non slide preferred."  She has been found and is ours.
2003 U320 36' non slide  Unit 6103
Cummins ISM 450
Allison 4000MH

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #4 –
The newer model uses a ball instead of a blade. Holds water for months and has never given a problem. I did replace the seal 2 years ago proactively.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #5 –
A few more before and after pics.
The closet flange seal was horrible.
Soaked the extension tube and associated parts overnight in soapy water and still had to scrub stuff off today.
Installed new mechanism plate and new mechanism today.
Will let adhesive caulk dry overnight and finish install tomorrow
Frank & Daisy
NO LONGER  "looking for the perfect Foretravel
36' or less non slide preferred."  She has been found and is ours.
2003 U320 36' non slide  Unit 6103
Cummins ISM 450
Allison 4000MH

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #6 –
Well I got the toilet back in today.
I added a 1/8 inch spacer over the closet flange to raise it per the instructions to 7/16 above the floor.
The tile is a little higher in the back so i shimmed the front of the toilet with some 1/16 rubber that I cut up to stop the wobble that it had before.

Now I just need to stop the leak at the water line connection.
Tried plumbers tape a couple times but continues to leak even with a new cone washer I replaced.
I will try pipe dope tomorrow
Frank & Daisy
NO LONGER  "looking for the perfect Foretravel
36' or less non slide preferred."  She has been found and is ours.
2003 U320 36' non slide  Unit 6103
Cummins ISM 450
Allison 4000MH

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #7 –
With cone washer you should need nothing else.  Check that the plastic is not cracked.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #8 –
Quote from: craneman –
The newer model uses a ball instead of a blade. Holds water for months and has never given a problem. I did replace the seal 2 years ago proactively.

Hmm, I just looked at these and the Aria Deluxe II has a blade. What model are you referring to?
Dan & Lauren - Pine Ridge, FL
2000 U320 42 CAI
Build #5766

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #9 –
My mistake I have the Sealand 4300 by Dometic. The pictures of the Thetford I have seen on the forum looked like mine. I had to get my owners manual out to find out what brand I have.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #10 –
I was surprised when I had the leak.
Hope it's not cracked, I've never dealt with pex before, don't have the tools.
I've read a little on shark bite push on fittings some like them and some don't.
Can I use a compression fitting instead?
Also, you can see in the 3rd pic that there is a metal elbow that is 3/4" and reduces down to 1/2 inch to connect to the water line. It's heavy and I was thinking of replacing it with PVC.
Frank & Daisy
NO LONGER  "looking for the perfect Foretravel
36' or less non slide preferred."  She has been found and is ours.
2003 U320 36' non slide  Unit 6103
Cummins ISM 450
Allison 4000MH

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #11 –
The shark bite fittings work great. I have used them hundreds of times on construction projects to cap off water lines during demolition until plumbing gets re-worked. Only had one leak in all my time using them. Easy and simple, just a little spendier than pex fittings but for something like you are doing it works great. I would get rid of those metal fittings.

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: craneman –
My mistake I have the Sealand 4300 by Dometic. The pictures of the Thetford I have seen on the forum looked like mine. I had to get my owners manual out to find out what brand I have.

How do you like it?  I looked at the 4310 - Wow!  Seems like a nice unit.
Dan & Lauren - Pine Ridge, FL
2000 U320 42 CAI
Build #5766
 

Re: Thetford Aria Deluxe II overhaul

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Blueeyedme –
How do you like it?  I looked at the 4310 - Wow!  Seems like a nice unit.
I like it very much, 6 years and no problems also low water usage. I did own a Monaco with the dreadful Microphor that was always costing too much money in parts to keep it going.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean