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Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #25 –
Yes the prices on THESE type tires had gone up alot. 177s average around 520+. The 170 in the 410+ range. I just ordered a set of tires to fit my wife's commuter, I have to replace about every 2 years,  Yokohama all I ever run on our dailys as I get great service out of them. I paid for this set within $10 of what I paid for the last set. I saw some of the Michelin similar to what I have now and the were in the $750 + range....rediculous. i don't mind spending my$, but such like that is just insane.
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #26 –
We love our F816e+ at $300/ea out the door, all taxes, mounting, disposal. 81 mph speed rated, LLR too. That's about $225/ea advertised price.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #27 –
Guess that I'm gunna have to skip the Nokian tires for a while. Shame . Best tires ever. 

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #28 –
6, Toyo, M170 295/75/22.5. -149L H16 on the way $2450. (4821) dots.
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #29 –
Quote from: mkc1962 –
6, Toyo, M170 295/75/22.5. -149L H16 on the way $2450. (4821) dots.
Good price. Does it include shipping and mounting? Was thinking the Toyos have a M speed rating.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #30 –
Pierce,
Shipping is free. I will be mounting all myself, I have all the tools and ability to do so. There may come a time one day, but I trust no one to do anything for me that I can do myself. Its not about the $, its about the quality you rarely get in the work performed these days( heck last 20+  )

Toyo M170, near identical to the M177. Both have a LOAD/SPEED rating of 149/146L
 

                                             
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #31 –
Quote from: mkc1962 –
Pierce,
Shipping is free. I will be mounting all myself, I have all the tools and ability to do so. There may come a time one day, but I trust no one to do anything for me that I can do myself. Its not about the $, its about the quality you rarely get in the work performed these days( heck last 20+  )
Toyo M170, near identical to the M177. Both have a LOAD/SPEED rating of 149/146L
 
I hear you. Just as the shop seems to have done a great job, the guy with the gun puts the lugs on at 1000 ft/lbs. We didn't balance our new tires and they seem perfect. The tire shop owner said that none of his truck owner customers balance theirs.

I've put a couple of 24 inch tractor tires on my Case 530D. Nasty job. Just installed a 13 inch on our wood splitter. Tire would not seal but some ether and a match did the trick. The quality of work done by many shops is terrible now with the companies that advertise the most doing the worst work. It's not the insurance companies that keep you out of the shops but watching "mechanics" learn at your expense.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
We didn't balance our new tires and they seem perfect. The tire shop owner said that none of his truck owner customers balance theirs.
Pierce

Guess I'm an old school trucker I wouldn't purchase Steer tires if I couldn't watch them spin on a balancer.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #33 –
My truck tire installer showed me a colored dot on the side wall of the tire about 1/4 inch in diameter, he said that was a balance mark on the tire that should be aligned with the valve stem for the correct tire balance. For what it is worth....  ^.^d  ::)
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Gerry & Brenda
CHARLOTTE HARBOR, FL
1994 Grand Villa - # 4466
U300 Unihome - 6V92 Detroit
4 speed Allison - Jake Brake

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #34 –
This is a tricky one as there are marks on the wheel as well as the red and yellow dots on the tire. Here is a good explanation:
https://www.topgear.com.ph/features/tip-sheet/do-you-know-what-those-colored-dots-on-the-sides-of-new-tires-are-for-a2600-20181008

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #35 –
yes well aware of the dot id purpose. But I have seen it provides an accurate starting point in about 75% of the tires I have done over the years. Rule of thumb is if the dot doesn't get you to within 2g max weight, deflate and rotate it 180. Most shops that I have seen, pay zero attention to the dot and just load up the weights until it does balance.  I have actually had a few tires that would never balance and would either take them back to where I bought for another or send them back if online. I've had a high end computer spin balancer for about 15 years now.
I blew out a tire on my brand new truck last year while pulling a trailer to Virginia to settle my mothers estate. The non full size spare, not something I wanted to tow with, went searching for a tire. Small shop had one. I was in the back talking while the guy was mounting. 7grams in and climbing, I asked the guy how much more was he going to load onto it? his plan was to keep going. I Asked him nicely to try the 180 approach, he obliged and 1.5G later we were done. "I be damn" he says, I never knew to do that. He claimed to have been mounting tires for over 30 years. Monkey see monkey do training approach I assume.
My balancer IS rated for 22.5, so might try to see how close the steer are. But due to the fact getting these balanced on the road is quite a chore, very time consuming and pricey, I'll be using either beads or Centramatics for continuous life of tire balance.. Havent decided which way I'll go on that.
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #36 –
Mike,
Wondering why you chose the M170 over the M177? Other than the obvious $100 per tire difference.
 
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota
 

Re: TOYO Tire differences

Reply #37 –
Justin,

I chose the M170 for 2 reasons. Mostly as just about every where I contacted on the M177, they had them on backorder and the prices were about to jump 20%. The other was, they are about $100+ each cheaper in price.

If you compare the M170 to the M177, they are near identical in all specs. I did have an initial concern about the fact that the 170 center tread sections appear a bit more agressive than the slick profile of the 177 from a noise perspective. However checking with some folks that have used them, as well as several online reviews, show this not to be an issue. There were several user reviews that mentioned the 170 performed a bit better in rain conditions, just a plus not something I weighed on my decision.

I presently have the Michelin that look showroom new but have near timed out. I had no intent of going back with those merely due to the rediculous price they charge for them. Toyos have an equal in quality reputation.
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918