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Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #25
Have driven with the gauge down a needle width above the "E" and the generator still ran. Another example of the great documentation Foretravel has in their manual. Each Foretravel must be like a snowflake.


Pierce & Gaylie
93' U300/36
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #26
Our fuel gauge is pretty accurate I think.  We can operate the generator down to at least 1/8 tank.  We have the 191 gallon tank in our coach.

- Roger Berke -
2000 Foretravel U320 42'

O.K.  here is what we learned.  Our generator runs out of fuel at about 1/8 to the left of the half full mark.  With the needle in that position we took on 80 gallons and I was repeatedly adding fuel after the automatic shut off.

This was the first time since March of 2009 that we have ever let the needle get that low.  We follow the "rule"of driving on the top half of our tank. In this instance we wanted to burn up as much of the fuel that had been sitting in the tank for the past nearly two months during which time we have not driven very much.  This seemed like a prudent thing to do because as of 12/31, we are staying in the same campground until April 1, 2011.  Yes, we have a FULL tank and we will exercise the coach monthly, taking it our for a run and a sip of fuel.


George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #27
I think it would be safe to say that the fuel gage indication on many FT's could be different as there is an adjustment on the sensing unit in the tank.  I suppose the factory would try to set each identical model the same, but maybe it didn't turn out that way.  Also a previous owner may have changed the adjustment or vibrations could have altered the adjustment.  In addition the sensing unit on my tank is located on the right side, if the vehicle is not perfectly level left to right, that alone should produce an incorrect indication.  The one thing that should be fairly constant though is the size of the tank and the location of the pickups.  I found that the pickups on my tank are located close to the center of the tank both fore and aft and laterally.  FT states that the generator pickup is higher than the engine pickup, so that the generator can not use up all the fuel and leave you stranded.  I doubt, but am not sure, that the engine pickup goes all the way to the bottom of the tank.  This should help to prevent picking up any water that might be in the bottom of the tank.  This should only be a problem after a stop of a day or more, and then only if someone got some bad fuel.  It would probably never happen under normal circumstances.  Water in gas separates readily, but water in diesel is slow to separate and mixes rather well when agitated as in driving, and can pass through the engine. 

In the past I have thought that FT did not do such a good job on the design of the fuel tank, as there is about 20 gallons of the 148 gallon tank that is unusable.  Now, I am not so sure about that.  Fuel is used to cool the injector pump on the engine or generator.  Hot unused fuel is returned to the tank, so the unusable fuel may be needed for that reason.  I believe it was Brett Wolfe that pointed out that our tank in an insulated compartment does not dissipate heat as well as the tanks on a truck.  Some folks have installed coolers in the return line. 

On my first trip, I filled up in Knoxville, TN and just before Dallas the low fuel light came on and the fuel gage showed slightly less than 1/4 full.  It took 94 gal to fill the tank in Dallas.  I keep my tank mostly full when in storage.  I buy fuel when I spot a good price, but I try to stay away from stations that do not have many diesel customers.  So far I have not had any fuel problems.  My generator has never quit for low fuel, but I have not tried to see how long it would run with low fuel.
Jerry Whiteaker former owner 96 U270  36' #4831 Austin,TX-Owner Mods LCD TV w/front cabinet rebuild - LCD TV bedroom - Dual Central AC, either can cool coach w 30 amp - Skylights at roof AC openings - Drop ceiling for ducting of AC - Shower skylight white gelcoat/wood/epoxy frame - Air Springs/Shocks replaced - 2014 CRV - 8K Home Solar - Chevy Volt

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #28
In my opinion, and compared to other coaches we have owned, I find Foretravel's documentation is excellent. At least on our '98.
Chad & Judy
'98 U320 - Build #5315
Motorcade 16317
Wickenburg, AZ

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #29
I sent Barry Beam a layout diagram of the fuel tank, it shows each pickup and return.
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #30
I sent Barry Beam a layout diagram of the fuel tank, it shows each pickup and return.
Here is the diagram
The selected media item is not currently available.Barry BEAM #16014
2003 U320 40' AGDS
Beamalarm, Foretravel technical help and specifications
"Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve"

Re: At what level of fuel does your PowerTech generator stop running?

Reply #31

Thanks for the drawing of the fuel tank.  The fuel sender, vent, and returns are all on the right (passenger) side on my tank.  I did some calculations in which I adjusted the outside measurements for the thickness of the walls and the baffles.  I used a conversion site found on the internet to convert cubic inches to US gallons.  Using 25 inches for the height of the fuel which leaves some space for air at the top, I did indeed arrive at 148 gal.  I didn't make any allowance for holes in the baffles.  It only takes 2.5 gal to reach the engine pickup and 15 gal to reach the generator pickup with the tank perfectly level.  In practice though the tank would rarely be level and require 3 to 4 times (a guess) those amounts to keep the pickups covered.  I think I read somewhere that 1/4 tank was needed for the generator to operate.  1/4 tank of fuel is 37 gallons.  If that is the case the pickup should be 6.25 inches above the bottom of the tank not 2.5 inches.  Has FT made a change in the height of the generator pickup?  It is very possible that they did.  If the generator pickup in your tank really is 2.5 inches above the bottom of the tank, you could be in trouble if you use the fuel down to that level.  If the pickup is at 6.25 inches and the tank not level you will need more than 1/4 tank to reach the pickup.  This doesn't really prove anything for those that have questions about how much fuel is in the tank when the generator quits for lack of fuel.  With the tank level, I think one would have to fill the tank almost to the point of overflow in order to have 148 gal.  Most fuel pump nozzles will probably shut off short of 148 gallons with the tank level (IMO) and if tilted the wrong way even less.
Jerry Whiteaker former owner 96 U270  36' #4831 Austin,TX-Owner Mods LCD TV w/front cabinet rebuild - LCD TV bedroom - Dual Central AC, either can cool coach w 30 amp - Skylights at roof AC openings - Drop ceiling for ducting of AC - Shower skylight white gelcoat/wood/epoxy frame - Air Springs/Shocks replaced - 2014 CRV - 8K Home Solar - Chevy Volt