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Ether system on 450 M-11

We have the ether canister on our coach.  We have never used it and never will.  Someone told us not to use it unless we are talking to James Triana. 

So I am wondering, what is the downside of removing the ether canister?  It would certainly prevent an accidental use of it.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #1 –
Same answer as the last time you asked.

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"How can I safely remove that canister of explosive starting fluid in the engine compartment? "

George,
                Go to the canister and unplug the wiring harness to prevent activation of the Ether canister, or disconnect the switch up front.
Rick

P.S.    This probably qualify's as a Tech topic and should be moved over there.      Thanks in advance Steve.

Rick
Rick

Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #2 –
Hi George, The only use for the ether on your coach is for the emergency when it is very cold, and you have no AC for the water jacket heater or the Aqua Hot is not working as the AH has the switch where you can heat the engine.  So from my view point, the ether on our model is like using a belt, suspenders, glue and screws to hold up your britches, or a little over kill  ;D

By the way George, you have the ISM-450, the M-11 is an earlier version.

Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Rick –
Same answer as the last time you asked.

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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2010, 10:05:52 AM »Quote Quote
"How can I safely remove that canister of explosive starting fluid in the engine compartment? "

George,
                Go to the canister and unplug the wiring harness to prevent activation of the Ether canister, or disconnect the switch up front.
Rick

P.S.    This probably qualify's as a Tech topic and should be moved over there.      Thanks in advance Steve.
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Rick


Hey Rick,

It's a real bummer getting older.  Geez, I can't even remember what I had for breakfast two days ago.  Hmmm.  Did I even have breakfast?

However, last time I asked how to disable the ether start.  This time I wondered if there was a downside to doing so.  In either case, I'm pleased that you are reading my questions.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #4 –
As a side note for those whose engines have an INTAKE MANIFOLD HEATER, never, repeat never use Ether.  Ether on a red hot heater grid can cause an explosion!

Brett
Brett Wolfe
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Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #5 –
George,
              On e(i)ther (pun intended) question I did not accurately answer your question. My canister is still in place and if I were to remove it I would make sure I had a face shield and gloves in case there was some spillage or spraying upon removal. After removal I would want to cap the actuator valve where the cannister was installed. I found that the supply line to the manifold is a plastic line and mine had a hole melted in it from being mounted too close to the turbo.
I know of no downside to removal unless you regularly are starting in very cold weather with no preheater and poor batteries. I also see no real downside to leaving it in other than the cannister rusting out and leaking explosive fumes into the well ventilated engine compartment.
Rick
 

Re: Ether system on 450 M-11

Reply #6 –
George,
I recently removed the ether cannister, emptied it completely by depressing the needle valve until there was no more flow of gas and liquid , then reinstalled it to cap off the actuator valve. That should make the system impotent.
Felix and Gail Mathieu
99 U320
Jeep Liberty CRD
Build number 5522