Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

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Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

November 28, 2011, 06:56:30 pm

Has any one installed a Splendide 2100 in a '99 U320?
The problem that I face right now is that the closet is only 24" deep and the Splendide is 23 3/8" deep.
I have the closet door off and also have the factory louvered doors.
Splendide recommends that the outside vent is equal to or below the washer vent. Of course, there is a framing member right there.
Just doesn't seem to be enough room for the vent hose.

p.s The 32" Sony LED project and generator feed fuel line are done. Pictures to follow when I can sit down long enough to post.

Re: Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

Reply #1 – November 28, 2011, 07:19:54 pm

I know my 99 is raised off the base floor 2-3 inches. There's got to be some 36 foot coaches that can give you some picks. I doubt there's any framing difference to speak of a couple years each side of you.

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Reply #2 – November 28, 2011, 07:23:58 pm

I think I can help. I ran into this in our 36' U270. I was able to make it work, but not easily. I will post on that as soon as I my granddaughter leaves in a bit...
Don

Quote from: Dick & Sue – November 28, 2011, 06:56:30 pm

Has any one installed a Splendide 2100 in a '99 U320?
The problem that I face right now is that the closet is only 24" deep and the Splendide is 23 3/8" deep.
I have the closet door off and also have the factory louvered doors.
Splendide recommends that the outside vent is equal to or below the washer vent. Of course, there is a framing member right there.
Just doesn't seem to be enough room for the vent hose.

p.s The 32" Sony LED project and generator feed fuel line are done. Pictures to follow when I can sit down long enough to post.

Re: Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

Reply #3 – November 28, 2011, 09:27:16 pm

I have been meaning to post on the subject of a Splendide 2100XC Washer/Dryer install for awhile now, but current projects have kept me busy. Since Dick & Sue are starting that process, I will attempt to share what I learned through my installation process. We have a 99' U270 36' that is a WTFE floor plan. I don't know for sure that the U320's are the same dimensionally, but I think it likely that it is identical in many respects. In any case, what I learned may assist others in their process.
I was able to install the 2100XC and keep the cabinet doors in place, but barely. I used a "Periscope Adapter" from Lowes which I had to modify to fit the Splendide vent kit and the Splendide dryer vent outlet with its white plastic adapter removed to have enough clearance to be able to close the doors. This isn't the only way to do this as another member succeeded fitting his by using offset holes around the metal framework. I am pretty sure it was Chuck Pearson... I don't have time to write more just now, but maybe the images will help. I plan to do a how to but no time right now, the bulkhead repair is calling! However, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask. You can also call me if you wish at SIX ONE NINE, 808 eighty-three seventeen.
Don
Edit: I should add that picture showing the "Periscope attached to the washer is before I modified the wall side in a similar but not identical fashion. That is, I found a part in the plumbing department of a local HD that I was able to modify and repurpose to fit inside the Splendide Dryer Vent Kit black plastic part and allow the periscope fit flush against the wall, thus taking up only as much space as the depth of the Periscope box itself. Since about 5/8" (just guessing because I don't remember exactly) of the depth measurement of the was accounted for by the plastic adapter flange that I removed from the back of the Washer/Dryer unit. What is left after you do that is a nice rubber gasket that you can insert the modified periscope directly into. Clear as mud? You will see when you remove that white plastic part that looks as though something is meant to be threaded into it... The picture with the magnet stuck to the top of the 4" dryer vent drilled hole shows how close to the metal cross brace drawn in the first picture the final vent location is.

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Reply #4 – November 29, 2011, 05:49:07 pm

Don, thanks for the information and pictures. They are a big help.
Did the Lowes & HD run this morning and picked up everything that I can identify from the pictures. I have 2 "Periscope Adapters". One 0"-6" and one 24"-41". Will have to see what one would be easier to adapt. But in either case, I'll have to "thin" either one down. First pass shows that I have 1 13/16" clearance behind the Splendide (with the dryer flange removed) and outer wall and the periscope is 2" thick. This is with mounting the louver doors on the outside of the cabinet, as per the factory suggestion.
What did you find to allow the periscope to fit inside of the Splendide dryer Kit black plastic part?

Any other help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
ps, I may put you on my speed dial.

Re: Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

Reply #5 – November 29, 2011, 09:30:17 pm

Hi Dick,

I am happy to add something to the knowledge base of this wonderful Foretravel community! The louver doors on our cabinet are mounted on the outside of the face frame of the cabinet. The little vinyl bumper stop that I put on the door where it makes contact near the latch gives me about 1/16" extra and the louvers themselves add almost 1/8". The curved handle on the washer door fits in the space between the right cabinet door and that extra 1/8" provided by the inset louvers- just enough to clear. Maybe the picture will show that... the part that mates to the black silicone flange on the washer's dryer vent is from a Rigid Shopvac adapter. See the picture for reference. I had to modify it by using a hole saw (with the center drill bit removed) that was just the right size to liberate the part you see in the pictures. First I tried to cut it out with a razor blade, but that was about to end in disaster! Then I used an extra part of the periscope that I cut off to make a plate which I drilled a hole with a hole saw (don't remember the size off-hand). I then riveted and used polyurethane caulking to attach and seal the shop vac part to the plate which I then riveted (aluminum rivets of course) to the periscope which I had previously cut out its corugated coupling flange. Hopefully the pics suffice, if not feel free to call. I am looking forward to meeting as many Foretravel friends as time and space allow!

I edited the narative above to try an make it clearer...
Don

Quote from: Dick & Sue – November 29, 2011, 05:49:07 pm

Don, thanks for the information and pictures. They are a big help.
Did the Lowes & HD run this morning and picked up everything that I can identify from the pictures. I have 2 "Periscope Adapters". One 0"-6" and one 24"-41". Will have to see what one would be easier to adapt. But in either case, I'll have to "thin" either one down. First pass shows that I have 1 13/16" clearance behind the Splendide (with the dryer flange removed) and outer wall and the periscope is 2" thick. This is with mounting the louver doors on the outside of the cabinet, as per the factory suggestion.
What did you find to allow the periscope to fit inside of the Splendide dryer Kit black plastic part?

Any other help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
ps, I may put you on my speed dial.

Re: Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

Reply #6 – November 29, 2011, 09:57:01 pm

Hi Don,
With you last picture had me running into the other room to check the louvers doors for clearance. WOW, that's close!! How did you get that shot?

What did you find at HD to allow the periscope to fit inside of the Splendide dryer Kit black plastic part?

thanks again, dick

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Reply #7 – November 29, 2011, 10:15:39 pm

Oops! Sorry, I misunderstood which part you were asking about. See pics below... It was an expansion plug for 3.5" clean outs which had a little bit of flange that used to put a few rivets and some Polyurethane caulking to seal it. I did end up wrapping a bit of stretchable tape around it to make it fit a little tighter. You might be able to find something better suited, but I was getting impatient! The picture below is what is left after you take off the expanding rubber sleeve. That clearance pic was taken with the left side of the cabinet door open and a flashlight shining up through the louvers:)
Hope that helps,
Don

Quote from: Dick & Sue – November 29, 2011, 09:57:01 pm

Hi Don,
With you last picture had me running into the other room to check the louvers doors for clearance. WOW, that's close!! How did you get that shot?

What did you find at HD to allow the periscope to fit inside of the Splendide dryer Kit black plastic part?

thanks again, dick

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Reply #8 – November 30, 2011, 11:29:32 am

Don,
Well after 2 hours on the phone & internet, we located the Sioux Chief Cleanout plug. It seemed that no one in town stocked that size.
Sioux Chief finally found a plumbing supply house that had them in stock. Will pick it Friday on the way to the grand-kids.

Question: Did you plumb the drain pan in? Ours came with the fitting on the back side. Will need to plug that and install a through hull fitting in the bottom, just as soon I find a good place to exit into the utility bay.

dick

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Reply #9 – November 30, 2011, 12:06:08 pm

I did plumb the drain pan... Kind of a pain. That is one area that is different for sure on your U320 since you have an Aquahot. I went out of the side of the pan, to a right angle shark bite fitting and down along the compartment wall next to the propane water heater to where all the drain valves are. Right now, it just ends in that compartment until I do the bulkhead when I will figure out exactly where to have it exit the coach. I also want to put some kind of screen to keep bugs out. It was tricky to locate the drain plan plumbing, but I have a Rigid Seesnake Micro camera which was helpful to make sure I didn't drill through something crucial. I drilled a small pilot hole first, fed some wire through and located where it was coming through with the camera. Based on that info, I drilled the larger hole slightly closer to the cabinet side wall from above, adjacent to the drawer guide support framing. In the picture of the drain pan in place, you can see the fitting I put in the left side. I ended up having to modify it a bit more to flatten it some because I didn't want it to rub against the bottom of the washer. I don't know the exact part I started with except that it was brass and the threads on the shark bite side fit the right angle shark bite fitting and the threads on the other side had a nut which started out as a compression fitting which I cut or ground off the compression flange.
I hope that helps!
Don

Quote from: Dick & Sue – November 30, 2011, 11:29:32 am

Don,
Well after 2 hours on the phone & internet, we located the Sioux Chief Cleanout plug. It seemed that no one in town stocked that size.
Sioux Chief finally found a plumbing supply house that had them in stock. Will pick it Friday on the way to the grand-kids.

Question: Did you plumb the drain pan in? Ours came with the fitting on the back side. Will need to plug that and install a through hull fitting in the bottom, just as soon I find a good place to exit into the utility bay.

dick

Re: Installing Splendide in '99 U320 question

Reply #10 – November 30, 2011, 12:30:32 pm

I guess that I should add that I foamed around the penetration into the utility compartment. Also, you might notice that the drain pan sits flush with the cabinet face frame. This is because I cut a piece of mat made from recycled tire rubber that is about 1/2" thick. This was the kind of mat gyms use to put under weight machines and such. Very heavy for its size and quite dense and tough. I think the brand was actually called "Tough Mat" or something to that effect. Anyway, I figured it would help dampen any noise from the spin cycle etc. I caulked all the way around it because I hate the idea of water getting underneath where all that wiring goes through the floor. I also used two of the hold down kits so that all 4 feet of the washer are held down and used sealer at each screw penetration. Getting the back hold downs located precisely enough to slide the washer into them was the hardest part of the whole drain pan process and perhaps unecessary, so you might want to skip that part.

Don

Edited to add outside vent pic showing vent cover in relationship to awning support...

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Reply #11 – November 30, 2011, 01:09:16 pm

Don, thanks again for the information.
Our closet floor is raised off the sub floor by 6 1/2", including 3/4" plywood. That gives us room to drop a drain hose out of the drain pan.
Dave Flanagan @ FOT suggested running the hose out the bottom of the utility bay and covering the hose with a SS screen. I just may terminate inside of the bay. I'll worry about that later.
I have the Splendide tie down kit and will use just the 2 clips.

dick

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Reply #12 – November 30, 2011, 01:15:28 pm

Your welcome Dick!
I can see that your closet and plumbing are set up differently. Nice to have that 6.5" to work with! I was planning on using stainless steel screen as well... just havent sourced it yet. Good luck with your install. Based on the results of your TV mod, I am sure it will come out great!
Don

Quote from: Dick & Sue – November 30, 2011, 01:09:16 pm

Don, thanks again for the information.
Our closet floor is raised off the sub floor by 6 1/2", including 3/4" plywood. That gives us room to drop a drain hose out of the drain pan.
Dave Flanagan @ FOT suggested running the hose out the bottom of the utility bay and covering the hose with a SS screen. I just may terminate inside of the bay. I'll worry about that later.
I have the Splendide tie down kit and will use just the 2 clips.

dick

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