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Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #25 –
Quote from: Dave M –
If I had the pull out type storage space below the frig, I might pick a shorter frig for the space, however, having the two doors, to use the space you need to get on your knees or lower to see and access the back areas.  So I feel a frig sitting there instead would be just fine.  I am too old and stiff to crawl down there and snoop, never used that storage area, getting back up ain't fun no moe.Dave M
I agree... and fortunately, like Steve & Michelle, we also have the pull-out extensions.  I keep a laser printer in one, and accessories for the central vac in the other (see below).  If more storage would be desirable, perhaps a shorter refrigerator and adding slide-out extensions behind the doors might make for more useful and accessible space? The selected media item is not currently available.
The selected media item is not currently available.Pat Hatfield
2000 U295 3600 #5666 WTFE (sold 1/7/20)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
previously: 2003 U295 3610 #6228 (sold 5/29/14)
previously:  2009 Honda CRV (sold 6/9/14)

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #26 –
Patricia,
A great idea, I never thought of the slide out drawer as an option, now to see if David F. could come up with the two drawers would make my day.  Also looks like a great place for my printer vs stuffed in the overhead above the easy chair.  The present space under the frig  is useless for me.
Thanks
Dave M

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Dave M –
Patricia,
A great idea, I never thought of the slide out drawer as an option, now to see if David F. could come up with the two drawers would make my day. 

Ours looks exactly like Pat's (except ours contain baking pans one one side and a toaster oven on the other).  I have to think those pullouts were an option for which standard drawings/hardware/parts exist.

-M
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #28 –
Dave, I just took another photo of the cabinets - this shows the construction more closely, especially how the sides are angled.  This is especially important if you need to lift your printer out of the cabinet.  I didn't want to do that, so the printer is wireless - I just plug it in and hit "print" on the laptop.  (FWIW, that's my snazzy 3-hole punch in the front of the printer.)  :))  The selected media item is not currently available.
The selected media item is not currently available.Pat Hatfield
2000 U295 3600 #5666 WTFE (sold 1/7/20)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
previously: 2003 U295 3610 #6228 (sold 5/29/14)
previously:  2009 Honda CRV (sold 6/9/14)

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #29 –
Most electric home fridges have a condensor on bottom that use a fan to blow air over coils.

This arrangement does not allow air-sealing the fridge to cabinets which lets outside air into coach, unless the original rear and top vents are sealed.  Also condensor heat is blown into coach interior.

Condensor fan models also use more electricity to run.

Some refrigerators may use the metal sides of the fridge as a heat transfer mediium, requiring air space between fridge and cabinets.

Lowes has a very popular 2' x 5' Whirpool fridge that still has condensor coils on back and does not use a fan or fridge metal sides for heat transfer.  This fridge can be sealed to cabinets to keep outside air out.  Many RVs use this model.

Only motorhomes with a built-in ice maker have a 120-volt 'inverter' outlet on the rear.

Home fridges require creative solutions to securely fasten them in place and to lock doors.

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Steve & Michelle –
Dave,

We'll also be watching to see how the fridge upgrade process goes.  Are you replacing a Dometic NDR-1492 (the 36" wide unit)?

For cooktop, I wonder how well induction "plays" with RVs and inverters.  I've had one smoothtop radiant electric and absolutely hated it.  I would never have one again, but I happen to love to cook and found the slow temperature response frustrating.  Induction cooktops are another deal, though.  They are smoothtop electric units that have responsiveness similar to gas (although they do require the use of induction-compatible cookware, which means a magnetic stainless or cast iron.  Others will not heat on induction).  The cooktops stay cool except for any heat transfer back from the pan.  There are a handful of 120V, 2-burner units out there.

Hmmm... one of my Google hits landed on a TrueInduction counter insert model that is used by Winnebago in their all-electric coaches...

Double Burner - Counter Inset Model

Induction isn't for everyone, especially the need for particular pan materials, but it's an option/alternative to gas some might want to consider.

Michelle

We have a portable induction cooker (single burner) that we just pull out and plug in whenever we cook, since it doesn't require us to uncover the stove..  Draws ~10 amps at max, doesn't get hot, and is temperature controlled  The only time we use the gas cooktop is when more than one eye is required.  Finding magnetic pots and pans is not a problem.  Lots of induction-compatible high end and cheaper cookware is available since induction cooking is popular in Europe.

When we redo the kitchen, an induction cooktop is on the list.
Dave and Nancy
1999/2013 U270 36' Xtreme
Motorcade # 16774
2013 Subaru Outback
KD0NIM

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Dave M –
IT looks like this project will wnd up with a Frigidare 18 cft+, It is a counter depth 70" tall which will eliminate the storage below and will only have a gap of a few inches between frig and the wardrobe wall.
So be it, I will have Ice in the Door and Ice cold drinking water too.  Some things are more important than others.  As the saying goes something about you get what you pay for, or you will have to live with your mistakes.  Time will tell.

As Peter mentioned, my diet consists of freezer to the micro or go to a resturant.
I ain't proud, am not a chef, but I can survive well on peanut butter and jelly too if needed.

Dave M


I have some ham and lima beans with soda cracker  C-rats
The selected media item is not currently available.Bill&Doris 97 U270 36'
University of Parris Island Class of 66
Semper Fi  Build# 5174 MC#17094

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #32 –
Michelle etc.
Found a Frigidaire Induction that might work, it is a 120 Volt AC @ 13.0 Amps.
Part # FG1C13P3KS  $199.00    Size 15 7/8" W  X  11 7/8" D  X  2 5/8" H  The height might be an issue as I measure 2" lid down to surface. Hope I can change knob switch or plunge cut in bottom of cover, no idea as of now.

Looked over the frig selections, looks like a 70" tall, (Forget the storage under) 20 cuft X 36" W and Counter Depth seems to be the answer SO FAR, lots more snooping to do.
The refrig units that would work on top of the bottom storage area, so far do not appeal to me what so ever, look too small, ice maker ?.  Oh! am told FOT uses a Velcro strap around the refrig handles to keep door closed on the Whirlpool all Electric units. On the 2010 Phenix anyway.

Anything to get away from the normal replacement gas/electric issues.

Love the idea of access from outside thru the existing panel, might be useful.

Also am guessing about the air flow across the condenser coil and exit outside, might need a fan to push air up thru the roof vent ?  Any info on that would be helpful also.

Mucho Thanks
Dave M

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #33 –
Curious why no mention of the Samsung 197 on Foreforum. Seems the most popular option discussed on other forums. High efficiency, low noise, counter depth, 32" wide, 70" tall, 19cu ft. Guessing compressor and evaporator in appropriate locations for a motorhome.
Mike & Molly Patronick
2001 U320 40'
2011 Forester

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #34 –
Hi Mike, Glad to see you here.  I have no clue about the Samsung unit, Rudy mentioned it, and I found it at Lowes, not stocked but they will order one.  Side note, read some info concerning the Samsung units, not sure what model referenced, but seems some unhappy issues about leaking water on floor.
Am glad to hear about the high efficiency, low noise along withthe setupfor motor home use.

The frig selection is still up in air, but for the stove top replacement, I have been snooping and found the owners manual for the Frigidaire Convection120 volt model, now I find it is a portable unit, just like a toaster, so not sure if it could be mounted in place of the present gas top unit.  ALso it is made by Electrolux, guess Frigidaire just sells it.

Still feel thebottom storage area is history.
Dave M

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #35 –
Quote from: Dave M –

The frig selection is still up in air, but for the stove top replacement, I have been snooping and found the owners manual for the Frigidaire Convection120 volt model, now I find it is a portable unit, just like a toaster, so not sure if it could be mounted in place of the present gas top unit.

I just checked the Gaggenau electric options (since our gas cooktop is Gaggenau Vario 232) - all of them seem to be 220V, unfortunately, but dimensionally they look like they would fit in the space.  And in a 15" wide they have an induction model.

www.gaggenau.com

-M
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #36 –
Interesting, the single element 220-240 Volt is a 3500 watt cooker  :o  No Tnx.
Dave M

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #37 –
There was discussion of a Bosch all electric refrigerator some time back, but I haven't seen any more about it recently. Am wondering if that didn't work out or if nobody has installed?
Dick, '03 U320 40' Tag, 2 slides, Coach #6075
Full Timers
2009 Honda CR-V

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #38 –
Here is a link for a LP adaptor to be able to use a camping type LP bottle. If your only gas is the cook top it will last quite a while and would occupy minimal space. The cook top is there and you don't have to worry about someone not liking the modification. Seems cheap easy and you still get the space the existing tank takes up.

CAMCO RV 59213 - Camco RV Portable Campfire Gas Grill, Propane Adapter 59213 -
1999 U320
Mount Dora Fl

Re: Electric Refrig & Electric 2 Element Stove

Reply #39 –
Quote from: Dick S –
There was discussion of a Bosch all electric refrigerator some time back, but I haven't seen any more about it recently. Am wondering if that didn't work out or if nobody has installed?

This is my installation of the Bosch. Be aware, the refrigerator MUST be put on a pedestal of about 4" so that it can slide over the top of the drain pipes from the sink area(they run along the wall behind refrigerator). With out raising the refrigerator it will stick out about 4" into the hallway. I also saved the central vac system under the refrigerator. I use the compartment to store the hose.
There is a small tall utility closet next to the refrigerator. I removed the 4 drawers in the kitchen and installed a dishwasher. I moved the 4 drawers to one of the cedar closets.

1995 U320C SE 40'
Jeep 4x4 Commander - Limited - Hemi
"The Pack"  Yogi and Diesel our Airedales -  Charlie our Boxer/Akita mix. Gone but NEVER forgotten Jake our yellow Lab.
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