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Freedom 25 Is Not Charging

This morning we fired up the generator. All looked good until I noticed that the battery voltage on the Link 2000 interface was not rising. The charger is turned on, the indicator light shows the charger in "Charge" mode, but current is still negative rather than positive.

I fear a failure in the charging system of the Freedom 25. If you have experience or knowledge, please suggest possible solutions including a replacement unit. Is there a possible reset, fuse, or relay failure that can be repaired?

If I install a Magnum, do I replace the Link 2000 panel with a Magnum control panel? Do I change out the shunt system as well?
J D Stevens
1997 U295 CAI 36' Build #5085
2002 Subaru Outback
Motorcade 16869
Bellville, TX

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Reply #1
Take your fist or the palm of your hand and hit the face of the unit about as hard as you can. Yes I'm serious! It resets the contacts in two circuit boards and sometimes it will start charging again. Gary O
Gary O
2000 U320 4210

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Reply #2
Worked for me when I had one if these. Sometimes took a couple "percussive adjustments"
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
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Reply #3
OK, I will bite, what is the best/recommended replacement for my 2500 Xantracs in the 2001 coach. ??  No issues yet, but nothing lasts for ever.  ;D
Dave M

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Reply #4
You might have it repaired instead.

best, paul

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OK, I will bite, what is the best/recommended replacement for my 2500 Xantracs in the 2001 coach. ?? No issues yet, but nothing lasts for ever. ;D
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Reply #5
For me replacing an inverter/charger was an easy decision.

I replaced my still working 2500 inverter/charger with two units, a Zantrex "pure sign" inverter (with 3% THD) and an Iota 55 amp, dual voltage converter (13.4v or 14v). I live on solar power and do not need the rapid charge available with a charger (14.6v). I would sell the 2500 inverter/charger (OE in 1996 U320) if someone would like a spare. What I did will not work for those of you who use your generator and charger to do a rapid recharge of your house batteries (converter voltage is too low for rapid recharge).
Wyatt
96 U320 40 WTFE, build 4943
84 Toyota Supra towd
2015 Jeep Wrangler towd
Victoria, BC, Canada

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Freedom 25 is working fine now. It appears that the simple threat of percussive maintenance was sufficient to fix it. :P Or it could have been the bumpy roads we travelled getting to the Mid-South Rally in Waco. Tested the converter (a.k.a. charger) on shore power and on generator power. I'll probably continue using modified sine wave inverter power until I am forced to change.

Thanks to all for suggestions and experience. I'll try to remember what you have shared. (I think I may have forgotten this before, but I can't remember. ;) )
J D Stevens
1997 U295 CAI 36' Build #5085
2002 Subaru Outback
Motorcade 16869
Bellville, TX

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Reply #7
Well... it's a moot point now but I am with Wyatt regarding two units instead of just one. Actually, we have moved in the direction of multiple units. As power requirements for electronic gadgets become smaller, we've found that we an just get more inverters and use them for specific needs.

The 180-watt pure-sine inverter in the bedroom plugs into the cigarette lighter plug for the old DC tv and can easily power both the BluRay player and the 23" LED HDTV plus it can also power my electric razor.  I can also plug my LED bedside lamp (which aims at my book to avoid depriving the DW of her sleep) into it.

Another inverter up in the dash can run the TV and BluRay there along with wall chargers for cell phones, tablets and laptops.

The 1600-watt pure-sine inverter under the fridge can run a residential fridge or the microwave. However using the microwave as an oven is probably a job for the generator. It needs to be run now and then, anyway.

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
Toad: 1999 Jeep Wrangler 2-door soft-top.

"No one has ever had to evacuate a city because the solar panels broke."

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Reply #8
what is the best/recommended replacement for my 2500 Xantracs in the 2001 coach. ??  No issues yet, but nothing lasts for ever.  ;D
Dave M
You might have it repaired instead.

Xantrex ProSine 2500 that Dave is asking about is not officially repairable  Xantrex Prosine 2.5/3.0 repair
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #9
I guess the guy that repaired mine did not know that. ;o)

best, paul

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You might have it repaired instead.
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Xantrex ProSine 2500 is not officially repairable Xantrex Prosine 2.5/3.0 repair
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Reply #10
Paul:

Who did you have repair it. I have one that I have replaced but would like to get the old one repaired if possible..
Tom Andrews
2001 U320 36 ft.
2002 Explorer
Pittsfield Massachusetts

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Reply #11
I guess the guy that repaired mine did not know that. ;o)

You didn't have a Xantrex Prosine repaired, you had a Xantrex Freedom 25 repaired.  Completely different things.

Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #12
Here ya go:

http://lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=ShowItem&ID=2151

best, paul
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Paul:

Who did you have repair it. I have one that I have replaced but would like to get the old one repaired if possible..
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Reply #13
But the subject was Freedom 25 ;o)

best, paul

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I guess the guy that repaired mine did not know that. ;o)

You didn't have a Xantrex Prosine repaired, you had a Xantrex Freedom 25 repaired. Completely different things.
1999 U320 40' 1200 watts on roof. 12cf AC/DC Cold plate fridge/freezer. VMS 240 CL Honda Element

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Reply #14
Tom, there is a difference between them and if yours is the "yellow" Prosine it is not repairable and I called the Xantrex office here in BC a while back and they told me too. Gary Omel had a bunch of them to try and fix and if I am correct they are all in the recycling bins now (gary, please correct me if I am wrong).
Some of the other models can be worked on.
John H
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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Reply #15
Thanks Paul:
It is a yellow one. I guess it will go the recycle bin also..
Tom Andrews
2001 U320 36 ft.
2002 Explorer
Pittsfield Massachusetts

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Reply #16
Wa_desert_Rat has more than one inverter, however, I have only one 1800 watt inverter under the foot of the bed. The 120VAC power from the inverter is distributed throughout the coach via the 120 AC wiring and power panel, which is also under the foot of the bed. I do not recommend many inverters connected via the cigarette lighter sockets because the 12 volt wiring will probably be undersized for this task. Certainly, the current carrying ability of the socket itself is limited. The 12 volt connections to my inverter use pinch bolts to keep lots of pressure on these high current connections.
Wyatt
96 U320 40 WTFE, build 4943
84 Toyota Supra towd
2015 Jeep Wrangler towd
Victoria, BC, Canada

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Reply #17
John, I managed to save five out of twenty but one of the the five is still not right.I can make it work only with a temp probe plugged in. I did save a few circuit boards but the rest went for salvage. If anyone has a take out that has NO smoke damage, It might be repairable.

Gary O
Gary O
2000 U320 4210

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Reply #18
We had the Freedom 25 inverter replaced in our 99 U320 a year or so ago with a prosine model... and I'd be happy to part with it for $150 plus shipping (it's very heavy)... it's on consignment at an RV repair shop right now... was working just fine when we had it replaced...
99 U320 40ft DGFE

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Reply #19
Hi,

If it truly is still working properly I would be interested, though I'm a little confused. I don't think the yellow Xantrex Prosine 2500 inverter was never called a Freedom 25 inverter. I thought the black Freedom 25 was made by Heart even though Xantrex and Heart merged a few years back.

Is your inverter a yellow flat inverter or a black square inverter?

Jim
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

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Reply #20
I had a typo in my post yesterday... and just modified it.... The one we took out was the Freedom 25 (square black) and replaced it with a flat yellow Prosine... I think it was a 2.0... and yes, there should be no reason the Freedom 25 would not be working... it was doing just fine when we had it replaced... The only reason we replaced it was we wanted one that produced a true sine wave..
99 U320 40ft DGFE

 

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Reply #21
I see, I'm looking for a Xantrex Prosine 2500. Guess we missed on that one. Thanks for responding.

Jim
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'