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Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #25 –
Any thing man made will eventually fall to bits,

I have a 23 year old Foretravel coach, I expected a lot of things to be wrong with my Coach, I had Budgeted for it,

An extra 20 grand I set aside to fix it up to be a good reliable Coach,

It cost about 7 Grand extra, Not the 20 grand I thought it would need,

Very little was wrong with the coach, Most was running gear, 108,000 miles.

Oshkosh Side, Not the Foretravel side,

My Coach was $212,000-00 when new in 1990,

I bought a block of land in 1990 for 50 Grand on Tic, The one I live on now, That was a phenomenal amount of money back them,

$212.000-00 I could have bought a Huge Mansion on acreage in 1990,

Even brand new ones will have some thing that Fails, Its just the way it is, Its a very complex system our Coachs,, Even human error comes into it,

Look at older SOB's,  What do they look like after 20 or 30 years on the road, The Foretravel Coach stands out,

You can Knock a Foretravel all you like,

But the quality stands up to the test of time, Its there for all to see, You cant beat that, Thats why I bought one,

Not a new one, Thats totally out of my Financial Future scope , So I had to settle for one within my means,

An Old Cheapy, Plus conversion, plus Shipping, Plus roadworthy and parts, It became quite expensive,

But I am more than Happy with my Old Coach,  And I would do it again, If I needed another one,
Cheers,
Brian,

Toys, 1989 Grand Villa, 36 foot, ORED with 300 Hp Cat. 2002 Gemini 34 foot Sailing Catamaran, 2006 Honda Super Blackbird 1100XX, 2002 ZR7 750 Kawasaki,
25 HP Chinese tractor and Backhoe,

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #26 –
Quote from: anny –
...lets not post negative comments about any product of Foretravel.

I'm still a "wannabe."  Not because I can't find a Foretravel in my price range, nor because they have flaws; but rather because I have not found "the one" yet.  I already know that even if I buy a brand new one, there will be negatives and problems.  I love this forum, and its people, and its existence is a big plus for the Foretravel, in my opinion.  However, if nothing negative could be said, I would have no interest in coming here.  I *know* there are plusses and minusses to everything, and especially everything mechanical.  And I want to read about them both. If it's a mechanical "fact," I'm interested.  If it's about one's philosophy on how much they spend on one, I'm still interested. If it's an opinion, I'm still interested (and may or may not agree).  As long as comments are made intelligently and in good faith, bring them on.

(Which of course means you have a right to express your opinion too; but what bothered me about it was that it felt like an attempt to stifle discussion, both in this thread and on the forum in general.)

Alex

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Home2fromHastings –
According to one inflation calculator, $275,000 in 1990 dollars is $492,090 in 2013 dollars

Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics

Which is barely less than the price of a decently-optioned new 2013 40' quad slide Nimbus Foretravel Texas
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #28 –
According to one inflation calculator, $275,000 in 1990 dollars is $492,090 in 2013 dollars

Quote from: Michelle –
Which is barely less than the price of a decently-optioned new 2013 40' quad slide Nimbus Foretravel Texas

So, when you look at it like that, twice the coach for the same money.  Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. 
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #29 –
I find the older I become, the less important money becomes and the more important health for the DW & I becomes.
Guess I do not fully grasp the concern in this thread.

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Dave M –
I find the older I become, the less important money becomes and the more important health for the DW & I becomes.

I completely agree.  More money generally caused me more stress to deal with all those "things."  Less stress equals better health for me and mine.
The selected media item is not currently available.Brad & Christine Slaughter
Was:  1990 U280 36'
Was:  2002 U270 36' (With a bathroom door) Build #5981
Is:  2021 Leisure Travel Van Wonder 24RL
2015 Jeep JKU, 2003 S10 QC 4x4 or 2017 C-Max
Lake Havasu City, AZ (or Gillette, WY)

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #31 –
Amen to that.  "Too soon old, too late wise."  If money bought happiness we'd be listening to the latest Jimi Hendrix/Janis Joplin cuts.
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #32 –
Money can never replace health or common sense. I am certain y'all heard stories of lottery winners going bankrupt.
Peter & Beth Martin
No Forrest? What have you done?
MC# 15890 until Dec 2016; FMCA #F329677
Cincinnati, OH

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #33 –
In the words of a close friend of mine:  "I've been poor and happy and now I'm rich and happy.  I think I like rich better." 

All of us as Foretravel owners or wannabes are in the top 5% of the world as far as creature comfort.  We are all probably in the top 10% of our communities. Most of us have gotten there by a lot of hard work and taking responsibility. Perhaps that's why we feel a connection no matter if we have an ORED with a 3208 or an IH-45. 

Sitting here in the lot at FOT looking at the line of coaches I'm reminded of how blessed we are to live in a country where most of us came from families with modest means and we can now enjoy this lifestyle. What a great country. I hope we figure how to somehow pass the opportunity to our children and grandchildren.
Rick & Rhonda
2003 U320 4220  Build #6199
Was
91 36' GV 300 Caterpillar, 92 40' U280 300 Cummins, 97 36' U295 300 Cummins, 2002
U320 450 Cummins
(Guess we're hooked)

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Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #34 –
Quote from: Johnstons –
In the words of a close friend of mine:  "I've been poor and happy and now I'm rich and happy.  I think I like rich better." 

Or to quote the cult guru...err, Indian mystic bagwan shree rajneesh  "I can meditate just as well in the back seat of a Rolls Royce as an oxcart."

Yes, we are fortunate.  I do see kids in general these days with a harder row to hoe than those of us who grew up during an incredible period of prosperity and growth.  The G.I. generation took their hard licks along with the breaks for sure and the boomers after them enjoyed the same.  To their credit, the younger kids I deal with have a changing set of ideals and norms to live by, such as genuine male/female friendships, breaking the debt cycle of car ownership for instance,  and I feel they will persevere in the face of what we view as future deprivations.  I see too many of them with experiences that uncomfortably parallel the Vietnam years and will be glad when they elect leaders who effectively govern into the new norm.  Hopeful as always and attempting to stack the deck for my kids best I can. 
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #35 –

"Sitting here in the lot at FOT looking at the line of coaches I'm reminded of how blessed we are to live in a country where most of us came from families with modest means and we can now enjoy this lifestyle. What a great country. I hope we figure how to somehow pass the opportunity to our children and grandchildren.
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Very well said.
Previous coach - 2007 Phenix 45'

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Johnstons –
In the words of a close friend of mine:  "I've been poor and happy and now I'm rich and happy.  I think I like rich better." 

All of us as Foretravel owners or wannabes are in the top 5% of the world as far as creature comfort.  We are all probably in the top 10% of our communities. Most of us have gotten there by a lot of hard work and taking responsibility. Perhaps that's why we feel a connection no matter if we have an ORED with a 3208 or an IH-45. 

Sitting here in the lot at FOT looking at the line of coaches I'm reminded of how blessed we are to live in a country where most of us came from families with modest means and we can now enjoy this lifestyle. What a great country. I hope we figure how to somehow pass the opportunity to our children and grandchildren.

Very well put, Describes most of us, Worked a lifetime  for it and now enjoying the fruits of our labour,

Depending on your work opportunitys, You either Buy a Brand new One or an Older cheaper one,

The one thing you have all missed, Is we are all still here to enjoy it, Many did not make it,

The opportunitys are still there to be had, Getting the young motivated to do it, Well thats another story, Hahaha
Cheers,
Brian,

Toys, 1989 Grand Villa, 36 foot, ORED with 300 Hp Cat. 2002 Gemini 34 foot Sailing Catamaran, 2006 Honda Super Blackbird 1100XX, 2002 ZR7 750 Kawasaki,
25 HP Chinese tractor and Backhoe,

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #37 –
Well, let me tell you folks that we are the poorest of the Foretravel owners and we love our coach. Pay it off in another three years. When mentioned that the discussion was getting off track I took some time and looked and I don't think the tracks are fastened down too tight on any discussion. My favorite was, when cutting a hole in the dash to put in another led screen, whether it was more favorable to own a plasma cutter or back hoe. This is just a lot of fun. Certainly a lot of good information. Just need to weed through it all to get to what you want. If it was "drop dead" "need it now information" I'd go to James or Mark. I enjoy the forum a lot and, no, I haven't decided who won on the plasma cutter/back hoe discussion.
Larry
1996 U295 36'
Build # 4805
Actually we sold it but just like to lurk

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #38 –
Off track was that it was leafing to personal attacks.  That is not allowed. 
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #39 –
Quote from: lgshoup –
Well, let me tell you folks that we are the poorest of the Foretravel owners and we love our coach.

I don't think so with a 1996 U295 coach. :)

I would like to have a bigger FT with a diesel pusher, but it's not to be. So I enjoy what I have and count myself as blessed.
Michael j
Livermore, Ca for now

1987  Grand Villa 2900 Rear Bath Front 460 Gas Engine.

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #40 –
^Hear hear! :D
Jay
1989 U280 SE, 36', 3208T Cat, build 3292

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #41 –
Hey Propman:
Did that. Not as good as Mark K. but got a Nimbus.
Doug, Mary & Abby the Terrier, boss of us.
2012 Nimbus 40',  #6557
2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Salem, SC

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Reply #42 –
Ya know ... I don't think that anyone who was smart enough to buy one of these coaches can be considered "poor" in any sense. You have a wealth of good sense, a gold mine of information at your fingertips and a machine with a sterling reputation.  If you don't have many $$$, it is only a detail. 
Carol & Jeff Savournin
Usta have a '93 U225 36', Usta have a '95 U320 40', Usta have a '02 U320 40'
Usta have a 2006 Born Free, Usta have a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser
Usta have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4dr
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life."  Steve Jobs
 

Re: I am at a Loss for Words and English is My First Language

Reply #43 –
Quote from: dougself –
Hey Propman:
Did that. Not as good as Mark K. but got a Nimbus.

 :)  Very nice!
Former 2003 GV U295 (6230) (2015 - 2025)
Former 94 GV U225 (2013-2016)