Need part numbers for the Hydrallic filters for Fan and Power Steering

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Need part numbers for the Hydrallic filters for Fan and Power Steering

July 09, 2014, 11:05:11 am

Hi, I am trying to change the hydrallic filters on the fan and power steering on my 1999 U320. There are three filters I need the parts numbers for. All I have on mine is a number, no manufacturer. Does anyone have these brands and numbers handy? Thanks for your help.

Ben Harris
1999 U320 40'

Re: Need part numbers for the Hydrallic filters for Fan and Power Steering

Reply #1 – July 09, 2014, 11:35:36 am

Barry has the maintenance consumables neatly arranged by year and engine:

Foretravel engine Belts, hoses, Filters and Fluids

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Reply #2 – July 09, 2014, 11:59:15 am

I do not see the part # for the system only oil weight

Ben

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Reply #3 – July 09, 2014, 12:35:09 pm

Quote from: Ben and Bonnie – July 09, 2014, 11:59:15 am

I do not see the part # for the system only oil weight

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Ours uses Donaldson 84101B as a filter

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Reply #4 – July 09, 2014, 12:39:22 pm

I don't know if you 1999 uses the same ones that I have or not but I needed 3 of the Nelson 84101B.

Hydraulic filter replacement - part number

Hydraulic Oil Change with Filters

You are going to want to change the hydraulic tank cover gasket while you are finishing this up as they tend to leak if you try to reuse the old one. Also make note of how the cover clamp goes together when you take it apart since it will leak profusely if reassembled incorrectly, don't ask how I know.

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Reply #5 – July 09, 2014, 01:10:18 pm

Thanks everyone for your help.

Ben Harris

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Reply #6 – July 09, 2014, 03:25:55 pm

I ordered the filters and gasket from Foretravel, they are made for foretravel only.
could not find them on the east coast. thanks

Ben 1999 u320

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Reply #7 – July 09, 2014, 03:39:40 pm

Cummins/Fleetgard , same part number.

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Reply #8 – July 09, 2014, 03:58:10 pm

Quote from: Ben and Bonnie – July 09, 2014, 03:25:55 pm

I ordered the filters and gasket from Foretravel, they are made for foretravel only.
could not find them on the east coast. thanks

Ben 1999 u320

If you do a google search for Nelson 84101B, you'll find a lot of SOBs use the same filters for the hydraulic system. Don't know what you paid at FT but they are $10.29 each at Ryder.

Filter hydraulic, 84101B, Nelson Exhaust - Ryder Fleet Products

and the gasket for $3.64

Filter gasket kit, 99955A, Fleetguard Cummins - Ryder Fleet Products

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Reply #9 – July 09, 2014, 04:44:27 pm

A possibly pertinent question is whether the ISM / M11 powered coaches use the same hydraulic system and filter(s) as the smaller Cummins? It was my understanding the hydraulic system in the U320 used a 3-piece filter stack. I'm also looking - hence the question! Thanks to the experts, once again!

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Reply #10 – July 09, 2014, 06:40:27 pm

@Chad my 92' U300 uses a 3 filter stack in the hydraulics. It's just 3 Nelson 84101B on top of each other.

see ya
ken

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Reply #11 – July 09, 2014, 06:53:33 pm

Thanks, Ken! I didn't want to order and get the incorrect part; they're not returnable. I appreciate your comment!

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Reply #12 – July 09, 2014, 07:00:12 pm

The hydraulic filters and cover rubber gasket are NOT made for Foretravel. They are not very popular but are available in many places other than Foretravel. Glad you found what you want from Foretravel.

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Reply #13 – July 09, 2014, 09:01:03 pm

I bought 3 Nelsons from Ryder last week for about $10 each.
I went to replace them today and found NO gasket on the top of the tank. It just had the band that closes it.
It never leaked.
Should there be a gasket?
Is there a difference with the M11?

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Reply #14 – July 09, 2014, 09:17:02 pm

On our coach M-11 there is a gasket, and there is only one way to install it. I don't remember if the bevel is down or up. If you install it upside down, the clamp won't go on right... and it WILL leak.

I can't remember where I looked to see how to install it. You can pick one way. If you guess wrong, the clamp won't go on right. Turn it over and rejoice!

The seal has to have a bevel. My first one didn't and it would not go on. Finally got the right one.

Mike B.

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Reply #15 – July 09, 2014, 09:19:32 pm

The M-11 uses the Nelson filters listed. The tank uses a gasket. If you don't see it on the canister, check the lid. There has to be a gasket or it would leak like a sieve.

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Reply #16 – July 09, 2014, 09:34:34 pm

who sells the gasket?

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Reply #17 – July 09, 2014, 09:39:55 pm

Gasket: Filter gasket kit, 99955A, Fleetguard Cummins - Ryder Fleet Products

Filter: Filter hydraulic, 84101B, Nelson Exhaust - Ryder Fleet Products

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Reply #18 – July 10, 2014, 01:36:29 am

Quote from: cajk – July 09, 2014, 09:39:55 pm

Gasket: Filter gasket kit, 99955A, Fleetguard Cummins - Ryder Fleet Products

Filter: Filter hydraulic, 84101B, Nelson Exhaust - Ryder Fleet Products

Thanks for the part number for the gasket!
Ryder ships fast, I hope I get the gaskets by Saturday.

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Reply #19 – July 11, 2014, 02:20:15 am

I went back to re-check for a gasket, NON.
I filled with oil, tightened the top and started the engine. No leaks.

Here is a picture of my oil tank. Is this the same as the one you have with a gasket on the top?

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Reply #20 – July 11, 2014, 05:49:54 am

Try Baldwin PT8487, or Wix 57196, they are power steering filters for Freightliner, Peterbuilt. The only difference is the rubber gasket glued on one end is slightly smaller in dia. in the center, but a razor blade takes care of that quickly. Most truck parts stores, and NAPA have them If one doesn't want to wait for them being shipped

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Reply #21 – July 11, 2014, 07:28:09 am

Quote from: Lon and Cheryl – July 11, 2014, 02:20:15 am

I went back to re-check for a gasket, NON.
I filled with oil, tightened the top and started the engine. No leaks.

Here is a picture of my oil tank. Is this the same as the one you have with a gasket on the top?

The lid gasket doesn't really go on top, more that it catches the lip of the canister. Could be easy to miss and you won't know if the thing sealed up well until you take it for a drive, at least in my case.

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Reply #22 – July 11, 2014, 08:06:57 am

Quote from: Lon and Cheryl – July 11, 2014, 02:20:15 am

I went back to re-check for a gasket, NON.
I filled with oil, tightened the top and started the engine. No leaks.

Here is a picture of my oil tank. Is this the same as the one you have with a gasket on the top?

Lon,

Like Robert says, if there really is no gasket, it will leak going down the road. It is possible the old gasket is still in place, and will be good enough to seal, but judging from the condition of the clamp, I wouldn't bet on it. Take a look at this link (below) - the tank described in the PDF uses the same gasket and lid design, although the actual filter is different. It gives a good view of how the gasket fits on the tank. If you do still have the old gasket in place, it will probably be stuck tightly to the ring that is welded to the tank, and will not come off easily (without some vigorous prying and digging). Hope this helps...

http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdfs/product_lit/americas_brochures/LT36073.pdf

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Reply #23 – July 11, 2014, 04:22:58 pm

Thanks for the help.
Hopefully a new gasket will come Saturday, I will take it apart again and see where that gasket fits.

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Reply #24 – July 11, 2014, 06:39:23 pm

Attached photos show where the gasket fits.

Complete instructional photos at:
Hydraulic Oil and Filter Change

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