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Door at Batteries

This door behind curb side drive wheels has gotten rusty and not playing well, can open but will not securely latch.  So today while killing tine ay Arcadia, Fl, was time for attack.  With good rust buster and Vice Grips was able to fibally get freed to where working mooth @ easy, now bolting the latch back and gettind adjusted for smooth & easy operation takes time.  Bingo now like new, point: should have a spare latch as there are more of the same.

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I have some latches that need adjustment as well.. If I were in Florida I would get a short stool and attack but here in Arkansas it is in the 30's today so it will likely be spring for me. As a matter of fact I don't think I have but 2 latches out of the lot that don't need attention.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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dub,
Once I figured how they work, it all got very easy to free up, found the best was to remove the 3 caps crews 1/4X28, use vice grips to rotate the spring latch then all made sense, took awhile to free up.
Good luck
Dave M

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10-4.... could use the doors to be fitting tighter.. 19 last night and 12 degree weather coming monday.. have adequate basement heat to overcome air leaks but still have plans to tighten everything up as it should be..you have the right idea locating that bad boy in Florida for January.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Once I figured how they work, it all got very easy to free up, found the best was to remove the 3 caps crews 1/4X28, use vice grips to rotate the spring latch then all made sense, took awhile to free up.

Dave,
 
I have the three cap screws off. I am trying to figure out what exactly you rotated with the vice grips. Would you please elaborate?
 
Thanks,
 
Trent
Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

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Reply #5
Pictures, please.

 

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Okay, I will share with you (and others) what I have learned in my quest to stop a bay door from opening.
 
The first picture is the latch assembly. You do not want to see it like this, because that means that the rivets that held it to the bay door have failed. The three circled bolt heads are the bolts to which Dave referred. They are 1/4 x 28 x 1/2" (Note the 28 threads per inch is considered fine. Most of the 1/4" bolts around my house are 1/4 x 20; they are not interchangeable!)
 
Removing these three bolts leave you three pieces:
    The base plate, which is mounted to your bay door (picture 2).
    The locking plate which secures the three bolts (picture 3).
    The latching mechanism (picture 4)
 
As the installed latch assembly contacts the post, the post pushes the latch arm until it rotates enough to secure the post. When the handle is lifted, a lever pulls the cam (green arrow) enough to release the latch arm, and the door can open. The lever is connected to the handle mechanism at the green arrow shown in picture 5 (hanging down in this picture with only the base plate installed).
 
The slots in the base plate allow some adjustment in the latch mechanism, but that adjustment is only up and down on the post.
 
In my case, I thought the post was not going deep enough into the slot to close the latch. The post is mounted in a slot on its bracket, but it was already as close to the edge of the frame as it would go. To get the adjustment I (thought) I needed, I installed two 1/8" aluminum plates (picture 6) between the latching mechanism and the base plate. The 1/2" bolts were not long enough so I used three 1/4 x 28 x 3/4" bolts which worked.
 
However, that well thought out and designed engineering change did not solve my problem! It turns out that the lever when installed on this latch, pulls the cam past its latching point, so it NEVER latches. Somebody on foreforums drilled another hole in his lever to re-position it on the post. That will not work in my case because I need a longer lever, not a shorter one.
 
Hence my question to Dave about how he used vice grips to "rotate the spring latch." If I could re-position the cam, so it does not start out already disengaged, I think it might work. My next effort in my trial and error saga is to try to make a slightly longer lever.
 
Will keep you inquiring fans apprised as I learn more than I ever wanted to know about how our bay door latches work (and don't work).
 
If SKS has BTDT, I would appreciate learning how they succeeded.
 
Thanks,
 
Trent


Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385