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Coolant

Think I've read something a year or so ago about coolant needed for my radiator. Just searched a bunch of pirate writing from 5 yrs ago with no help. Brett(or someone) tell me wnat to put in my radiator. Haven't driven it since getting it going again. Not going to until I check coolant(won't do any good if it's low and I don't have proper stuff to add....think I'll go back and learn some more pirate lingo. Didn't realize this has been going on for so long.

Jim
Just refreshed to check my post and discovered pirate lingo in MY post. HOW??

'92 Grand Villa 36' w/8.3Cummins mechanical
ORED
Build#4062

Re: Coolant

Reply #1 –
Jim,

At this point, really don't know what is in there-- hopefully, not OE coolant!

Two types of coolant are approved for your engine:

Low silicate coolant for diesels with added SCA (Supplemental Cooling Additive)

The new generation OAT-based coolants for diesels.

If you want to avoid a complete flush and rinse, stick with the type that is in there now.

"Regular"/automotive Prestone is NOT acceptable for your diesel engine, though Prestone certainly makes coolants of the two types listed above.


Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Coolant

Reply #2 –
How does one guess what's in there now?

Jim
'92 Grand Villa 36' w/8.3Cummins mechanical
ORED
Build#4062

Re: Coolant

Reply #3 –
I got it directly from Cummins themselves........the horses mouth so to speak. Their tech told me to use ANY coolant as long as it says "Meets Cummins 14603 specifications" on the jug.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #4 –
Quote from: Jim Sizemore –
How does one guess what's in there now?

Jim
You don't unless it is green. If green, then regular coolant, if red, can be anything.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Coolant

Reply #5 –
Yup, most likely green= low silicate coolant.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #6 –
Is green bad? My ism has green elc.

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: DavidS –
Is green bad? My ism has green elc.
Learn something new every day. I didn't know ELC ever came in green.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #8 –
Green and says extended life

Concentrate

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Reply #9 –
That is Ethylene Glycol It is not the ELC which is Organic Acid Technology formula and is red.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: Jim Sizemore –
How does one guess what's in there now?

When in doubt, flush 'er out
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #12 –
Yep, not the same stuff, I am sure others will chime in. A lot of manufactures call their product extended life, but the true ELC OAT is 6 years and 600,000 miles and an earlier post had a rep claim that in our motorhomes we could forget the year limitation and basically never change it.
Just realized the link problem might have something to do with pirates day lingo. The link below might work tomorrow.

Shell Rotella® ELC Extended Life Coolant Extender
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #13 –
Quote from: DavidS –

The Front says Extended life ..Different?

Yes, different..... diesel engines with wet sleeve cylinders need a low silicate coolant with SCA (Supplemental Coolant Additives) or the new OAT (Organic Acid Technology) type coolant. I changed mine out to Peak Global Final Charge OAT, good for 6 years / 600,000 miles.
I think that I will change it at 500,000 miles just to be on the safe side...... 8)
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #14 –
 :o , I promise ..... I don't really talk (or type) that way!
site has been hacked by a pirate...........
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #15 –
If it is unknown what is in the cooling system, or unknown is how old whatever is in there, and what ratio to water it has, why not start over with all knowns.  Drain, fill, drain, fill, drive for a short warm up, drain, repeat as many time as you want.  Then fill with correct number of gallons of whatever you choose, top off with distilled water.  Drain & fill big plastic overflow container with same stuff.  Years ago, between water fills, we cleaned the insides with both of Cummins coolant cleaners, adding a gallon of Cummins acid-type cleaner, then added a gallon of their alkaline cleaner, flushed it all out and then added our choice which is Cummins Compleat EG

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Reply #16 –
Did this with last and my most recent U295, your post spells it out accurately,  I also used the Cummins Fleetguard, ES Compleat™
 OAT* "Lifetime Heavy Duty Fully Formulated Antifreeze/Coolant
Nitrite, Amine, Phosphate and Silicate Free".  I like not having to check the SCA's and the 1,000,000 miles is nice.  I also will change at 500,000 miles, I only have 497,500 to go.  Also Napa, Wix, Fleetguard all sell the none SCA coolant filter which has to be used with this coolant.
97 U295 40, Build #5040, 6C8.3 325 HP
Oregon Continuous Traveler
Samsung Residential #RF20HFENBSR,
Xantrex SW2012, (3)AGM8D Hse, (2)AGM Grp24 Eng, Victron BMV-712, 1800w Solar 4 LG & 2 Sunpower
Extreme Full Body Pt w/hdlmps, new furn/floor, 4 down Lexus 2004 GX470 AWD curb weight 4,740 lbs
Prev: 1990 Barth, 10L 300 2 yrs; 91&92 Monaco Signature, 10 yrs, 10L C 300 &  6C8.3 300; 1997 ForeT 6C8.3 325 since May 2017.  Employed by Guaranty RV 14+ yrs.  Former VW New Car Dlr/Service Dlr, Sales Mgr, Rv Sales, and Service Adviser from 1968-2017
"Don't criticize what you can't understand" Bob Dylan
 

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Reply #17 –
Cummins sells an ethylene glycol based extended life coolant. That is what the Cummins dealer put into our coach when I had the cooling system flushed and refilled. I don't care how long it is good for I will have my system flushed and refilled with the same stuff after several years use. Not wanting another transmission cooler failure one is enough; flushing and refilling a lot cheaper than a transmission rebuild or replace. Over cautious absolutely.
Hybrid (Fleetcool EX™ & ES Compleat™) | Cummins Filtration

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers