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My Alternator is Charging!

In addition to the water problem, the RV Doctor also replaced our alternator. My gauge now shows about 14 volts; much better than the 11 volts I am used to seeing.
 
My concern is that sounds a little high for my AGM batteries. Is it a problem?
 
Thanks,
 
Trent

Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #1
Depends on the state of charge your AGM batteries have now. Also depends where the voltage reading is coming from, is it the stock analog gauge or a digital? Would suggest you take a digital meter and read the voltage AT the batteries with the engine running but AFTER the batteries are fully charged. Go online and find the manufacturer of your battery. They will have the normal range of voltages for that battery. Important that the final float/maintenance voltage be right around their specifications for maximum battery life while on shore or solar power.

Because of the battery isolator (isolates the house from the engine batteries), alternator voltage will be higher than the reading at the batteries.

Most automotive and aircraft equipment is designed to operate at about 13.8 volts with a full charge a few minutes after shutting down of 12.7 volts. For a super accurate reading, some manufacturers recommend waiting 6 hours after charging for a final check.

Quote:
"The BULK stage involves about 80% of the recharge, wherein the charger current is held constant (in a constant current charger), and voltage increases. The properly sized charger will give the battery as much current as it will accept up to charger capacity (25% of battery capacity in amp hours), and not raise a wet battery over 125° F, or an AGM or GEL (valve regulated) battery over 100° F.
The ABSORPTION stage (the remaining 20%, approximately) has the charger holding the voltage at the charger's absorption voltage (between 14.1 VDC and 14.8 VDC, depending on charger set points) and decreasing the current until the battery is fully charged. Some charger manufacturers call this absorption stage an equalization stage. We don't agree with this use of the term. If the battery won't hold a charge, or the current does not drop after the expected recharge time, the battery may have some permanent sulphation.
The FLOAT stage is where the charge voltage is reduced to between 13.0 VDC and 13.8 VDC and held constant, while the current is reduced to less than 1% of battery capacity. This mode can be used to maintain a fully charged battery indefinitely."

Important with AGM batteries that your shore or solar controller/charger does not include an equalization period in the charging process as most manufacturers don't recommend it for AGM. Can reduce battery life. This is programmable on newer chargers. Should be addressed at the web site.

Pierce



Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #2
Depends on the state of charge your AGM batteries have now. Also depends where the voltage reading is coming from, is it the stock analog gauge or a digital?

Pierce,
 
My specific reference was to the analog dash gauge, which has been showing a discharge, before the alternator was replaced.
 
I also have digital meters plugged into the two 12 volt sockets on the dash. Upper is house, lower is engine. It has been plugged into shore power overnight, so I will see what the digital gauges show.
 
Thanks,
 
Trent


Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #3
AGM & Wet Cell batteries have the same basic operating characteristics.  Gel Batteries (should) charge @ 14.1V.
The best indicator for battery voltage is a volt ohm meter (VOM) on a resting state battery. 
Dash gauges are a handy method for getting an overall reading of your charging and battery condition.  pc
S/W Houston 95" U320C SE/40' 
Build #4778  Cummins M11
Repairs & Covered RV Parking (BAO)
PPL is close..

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #4
I also have digital meters plugged into the two 12 volt sockets on the dash. Upper is house, lower is engine. It has been plugged into shore power overnight, so I will see what the digital gauges show.
 
Thanks,
 
Trent
I have used digital gauges in the dash outlets. Indeed, they are much more informative than the analog gauge on the dashboard. However, you will get more reliable readings with a digital gauge at the battery posts. It can be informative to take readings at the battery posts and compare them to readings taken elsewhere under the same conditions.
J D Stevens
1997 U295 CAI 36' Build #5085
2002 Subaru Outback
Motorcade 16869
Bellville, TX

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #5
Guys,

Good points about the plug in digital voltmeters.  ^.^d I bought a couple from China a while back ($3 delivered). Good to use in your toad too as idiot alternator lights don't come on when the brushes wear out and the voltage drops. The latest have USB charging outlets built in and some even have thermometers included too. Might have to upgrade for the USB outs if the budget allows.  :D GVs have the other lighter plug (house batts) right by the HWH pad.
digital plug voltmeter car | eBay

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

 

Re: My Alternator is Charging!

Reply #6
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  Gel  Batteries (should) charge @ 14.1V.   

Gel Batteries should be charged @ 14.1V when batteries are at a temperature of 77 degrees.  And about 1/2 volt lower at high temps and about 1/2 volt higher at low temps.