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94 U280 GV toilet removal

I have a broken vacuum breaker on the toilet in my Grand Villa. I removed the 4 bolts holding the toilet down to get to the vacuum breaker on the back of the toilet.  As I removed the bolts I could hear the nuts dropping off in to the box that elevates the toilet one by one. So do I have to rip the carpet off and take the front off of the box to remount the toilet? Seems like a bad design. Am I missing something?
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #1 –
What model toilet are you taking loose.Mine has 2 holddown bolts just like the one st home.
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #2 –
Quote from: stump –
What model toilet are you taking loose.Mine has 2 holddown bolts just like the one st home.
It is a Sealand Traveler Model 511 with the sprayer on the side...has 4 bolts with the nuts inside the box...
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #3 –
Mine has a access vent to get into the box below the toilet
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #5 –
Some of the replacement base gasket kits come with new hardware. May also be able to find a substitute in a box store plumbing section.

Also, is this a nut, or a stud that slips into a recess and onto which you thread a nut to hold the toilet in place.

Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #6 –
Does your risor box have a heat vent on the side of it? If so take out the screws and pull it out disconnect the duct and push it in box reach in put nuts on pull duct out and reattach to vent.
Never mind I just read above you didnt.
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #7 –
Quote from: stump –
Does your risor box have a heat vent on the side of it? If so take out the screws and pull it out disconnect the duct and push it in box reach in put nuts on pull duct out and reattach to vent.
Never mind I just read above you didnt.
No vent....I see a lot of pictures with vents but mine is just a box.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #8 –
Quote from: wolfe10 –
Some of the replacement base gasket kits come with new hardware. May also be able to find a substitute in a box store plumbing section.

Also, is this a nut, or a stud that slips into a recess and onto which you thread a nut to hold the toilet in place.


No Brett. It is a hex head bolt with a nut ...and I assume a washer, underneath the flange. The nuts are is inside the carpeted box. When I look at the installation instruction online they show 4 traditional style toilet bolts that fit into slots in the flange with the nut on top. Mine is not installed that way, FOT must have been out of toilet bolts that day so they improvised. I will look and see it a regular toilet  bolt will fit into the flange.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #9 –
They did a less than desirable install on my base flange also.So don't feel singled out!!lol
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #10 –
Quote from: stump –
They did a less than desirable install on my base flange also.So don't feel singled out!!lol
Doesn't seem like doing it correctly would have been that hard.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #11 –
I kind of like the idea of going thru the box to mount the toilet. It should be sturdy compared to just mounted to the flange which give a little.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #12 –
Quote from: turbojack –
I kind of like the idea of going thru the box to mount the toilet. It should be sturdy compared to just mounted to the flange which give a little.
Good point ...It is very sturdy
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #13 –
Karl,

We had a similar set up on the '92 that we had. IIRC there are 4 square headed screws hidden in the carpet on the front of the box.  If you remove these screws then the carpet would act as a hinge and the front panel would lift up. Give a real good look around on the corners as ours were almost impossible to find.

Pamela &  Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #14 –
Karl, am I missing something here? Why bother to look for them just get 4 new ones and leave the others in box as they will not hurt anything.
Saves taking apart the box or?
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
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Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #15 –
Just finished replacing our toilet flange seal between the floor and toilet.  95 U280.

  It's possible that Fortravel did it right and the PO had to improvise a fix or ?

  Ours had the 4 bolt flange and I was able to just replace the bolts and move on. I suppose if you wanted more strength you would bolt through the flange AND through the floor. That would be holding your toilet to the floor directly instead of bolting to the flange which is just screwed to the floor.

  Just a pita to have to reach through the access hole and hold the nuts while someone else would have to turn the bolts topside.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #16 –
Quote from: Pamela & Mike –
Karl,

We had a similar set up on the '92 that we had. IIRC there are 4 square headed screws hidden in the carpet on the front of the box.  If you remove these screws then the carpet would act as a hinge and the front panel would lift up. Give a real good look around on the corners as ours were almost impossible to find.

Pamela &  Mike
AHHHHH....I will go look for that!  Thanks!!!  Hopefully it is that way!!!
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #17 –
Quote from: Bob & Sue –
Just finished replacing our toilet flange seal between the floor and toilet.  95 U280.

  It's possible that Fortravel did it right and the PO had to improvise a fix or ?

  Ours had the 4 bolt flange and I was able to just replace the bolts and move on. I suppose if you wanted more strength you would bolt through the flange AND through the floor. That would be holding your toilet to the floor directly instead of bolting to the flange which is just screwed to the floor.

  Just a pita to have to reach through the access hole and hold the nuts while someone else would have to turn the bolts topside.
My dad was the PO...I know he never messed with it.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487
 

Re: 94 U280 GV toilet removal

Reply #18 –
Quote from: John Haygarth –
Karl, am I missing something here? Why bother to look for them just get 4 new ones and leave the others in box as they will not hurt anything.
Saves taking apart the box or?
JohnH
I would still have to get into the box to put the new ones on unless I can make standard toilet bolts work.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487