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Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Per Spartan rep in this video, the Realm is supposed to get the same collision mitigation system that the Entegra Cornerstone and Newmar King Aire have.  He states coming this spring as a mid-year/running change for the Realm. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E4UJ9oAeMI
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #1 –
At Quartzsite, we heard that Foretravel is using the Spartan K3-600GT chassis.  It is similar to the K3-600, except the GT has a Trussed, Torque-Box Structured Frame Design or in my terms, a normal top frame with an added bottom frame connected to top with vertical frame members.
Heard that a couple of Newmar models used to use the GT, but now uses the plain 600 along with some Enetgra models.  And that only Foretravel (& Realm FS6) are using the heavier/stronger GT chassis.
Both K3-600 chassis have Cummins ISX 15L 600 HP / Allison 4000MH, 20,000 lb independent front suspension & 20,000 lb towing capacity Looks like all air-bags are inner mounted.  I am not sure if Spartan has made any mods to their K3-600GT chassis for Foretravel.

Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #2 –
Quote
we heard that Foretravel is using the Spartan K3-600GT chassis.  It is similar to the K3-600, except the GT has a Trussed, Torque-Box Structured Frame Design or in my terms, a normal top frame with an added bottom frame connected to top with vertical frame members.
Heard that a couple of Newmar models used to use the GT, but now uses the plain 600 along with some Enetgra models.  And that only Foretravel (& Realm FS6) are using the heavier/stronger GT chassis.

Newmar and Entegra add their own truss system.  "STAR" for Newmar, "X-bridge" for Newmar.  It's basically the same thing, just coach-manufacturer-added versus Spartan-added.

The primary differences in these coaches going forward are the house portion, not the chassis.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Michelle –
The primary differences in these coaches going forward are the house portion, not the chassis.

This will greatly aid in be able to find good shops to do maintenance!
1998 U270 34'

Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #4 –
I really studied the pic's that were posted @ the RV show... looks like they retained the outboard 4 bag FT  system for the drive axle, and the 2 bag for the tag.... but the airbags (2) on the steer axle were inboard more or less..
'02 40' U320t  4010WTFS Build 6036 1 slide
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 5 million miler
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Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #5 –
In the ifs they have to be inboard on the front axle.
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Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
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Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Michelle –
Newmar and Entegra add their own truss system.  "STAR" for Newmar, "X-bridge" for Newmar.  It's basically the same thing, just coach-manufacturer-added versus Spartan-added.

The primary differences in these coaches going forward are the house portion, not the chassis.

Newmar does there own but Entegra has another company do theirs when they get from Spartan. They said they would love to do in house but had to do something about the emissions and the government for the reason to outsource.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago
 

Re: Spartan collision mitigation coming as running change to the Realm

Reply #7 –
Quote from: saddlesore –
I really studied the pic's that were posted @ the RV show... looks like they retained the outboard 4 bag FT  system for the drive axle, and the 2 bag for the tag.... but the airbags (2) on the steer axle were inboard more or less..

On the next gen IH, but not the Realm.

If you'll notice, the Realm has the Spartan passive steering tag, same as the 2017 and newer Entegra Cornerstone and all the 40 ft. and up Newmars, starting with the Dutch Star.

The next gen IH does not mention passive steer tag nor do the tag wheels look like a steer tag.  Likely those outboard rear air bags prohibit it.

IH did experiment with steerable tag in 2016 (look at some of the leftovers and used coaches on FT's sales site).  It wasn't offered in 2017.

BTW, we have driven a 2015 Cornerstone (fixed tag) and were extremely impressed with the ride and handling of the high end Spartan chassis.  Have not yet driven a Newmar or Newell but hope to soon.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320