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Re: 6V92TA oil

Reply #25 –
I have used synthetic oils in everything including chain saws, dirt bikes, Kaw 500, almost all of our cars with excellent results. What stops me from using it in the U300 is just the cost. With 5.5 gallons needed for our coach, the cost is just beyond our budget. I do like to change oil every year or sooner if we take a lot of trips so this would be a major expense and I don't see it really extending engine life as it should last forever as is.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
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Reply #26 –
Pierce, with having Syn in all places on our coach and the bit more expensive Amsoil we use, I find that oil and filter changes are  double the usual mileage ( and more sometimes) so it really works out not that more than using reg' oil in my opinion.
I feel the syn gives us better heat control too.
Just my thoughts of course.
JohnH
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Re: 6V92TA oil

Reply #27 –
John,

The synthetic does give better lubrication and works well at high temps, won't coke so turbos last longer with poor owner engine operation.

Regular synthetic does cost about twice as much as Delo 100/Exxon but since I don't like to go over 10,000 miles before changing, I would have to go about 20,000. Probably not a big deal but I do worry about diesel in the oil contamination, etc so I'm probably old school but I'll stick at least once a year changes.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #28 –
Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart –
How about the Castrol name on the buckets? Is it Tection or another name? I can't seem to find it. A photo of one of the buckets would get great.
P

I think it's Tection but it's at my shop about 40 miles away. I'll look and let you know when I go over there.

TOM
SOB (Some Other Brand) division
1995 Wanderlodge WB40
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Reply #29 –
Most of the farm supply stores, Tractor Supply, Agra-supply, and whatever you have out West, carry Delo 100 and/or off brand non detergent 40 wt. oil in 5 gal. buckets for farm equipment and off road heavy equipment. It will say that it is for DD two strokes and generally is between $50-$60 a 5 gal. bucket. Most auto. parts stores can order it from their warehouses but often don't stock in the stores unless they are in a farm community.

wantabe

Re: 6V92TA oil

Reply #30 –
@wantabe

6v92's do best on straight 40 wt with a low ash content. Delo 100 40wt has the lowest ash content of any oil available which is why it's prized by the 6v92 owners.

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ken
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Reply #31 –
Don't use non detergent oil in a Detroit Diesel or any engine that has an oil filter. The detergent makes the crud in the oil glob up so it's bigger and easier for the filter to catch. Likewise don't ever use high detergent oil in a small engine that doesn't have an oil filter or you'll wear the engine out rapidly... In short, do exactly what the manufacturer says unless you have a specific reason to change... Also be aware that synthetic oil causes gaskets and seals to shrink and will eventually cause oil leaks. Look at my dirt bike that's been running on synthetic oil for 30 years and you'll see what I mean. Conventional oil normally causes the gaskets and seals to expand a little bit and tends to prevent leaks ...but not always

Use Delo 100 straight 40 weight in the Detroit Diesel with the correct filter and you'll be fine.
Scott Cook
1991 U300 36' 6V92TA
Old Town Penobscot 16
1984 Honda VF1100C (V65 Magna)

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Reply #32 –
Synthetic oil whether Amsoil or any other brand does not cause gaskets and seals to shrink and leak.That is a myth,old wives tale.
Have been using it for almost 40 years in old and new vehicles and never came across that problem.Think about this for a moment,
how is the oil even going to come in contact with most gaskets?How many new vehicles come with synthetic already in the
engine,are they leaking when you buy them?Don't know why your 30 year old bike has problems but have you changed the oil
in 30 years?How many lawn mowers are out there with no oil filter using detergent oil,that's why you change the oil sooner and
when you change it it's dirty and black,from detergent oil.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #33 –
Again, for anyone else reading this except John, don't ever use high detergent oil in small engines without oil filters or you'll wear out your small engine very rapidly. The big globs of crud going through the engine cause much more wear than small particles of crud if there's no filter to remove it. This is common knowledge in the oil and small engine industry. As always, do exactly what the manufacturer says and ignore what you read on this forum. The easy way to remember this rule is non detergent oil for non filtered engines.
Scott Cook
1991 U300 36' 6V92TA
Old Town Penobscot 16
1984 Honda VF1100C (V65 Magna)

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Reply #34 –
Even though youre getting way off topic here with detergent vs non detergent, lets clear up the myth with facts. The ONLY modern application for a non detergent oil is the pump of a power washer or an air compressor! (not the engine) all small engines spec a modern oil WITH detergents, no matter who makes them. Honda specs 10w-30, briggs and stratton 5w-30 or straight 30, API SJ or greater (again, modern, detergent oils in every application!)

With modern clean burning engine designs(OHV, cross flow heads, etc) and modern machining that produces better, tighter engines, the non detergent oil is simply not needed. Engines will last longer and run better on normal automotive oils, which is why the OEMs spec such oils.

95 U300SE

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Reply #35 –
The myth started way back when people switched from non detergent oil to detergent oil in their engine. The detergent oil started loosening the crud at the bottom of the pan, and crankcase in small engines and some problems came of that. Also just because you don't see an oil filter on a M/C engine doesn't mean that no filtering is taking place. The old Honda 250's and 305's from the early 60's used a centrifugal filter that had to be taken apart and cleaned. 
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Reply #36 –
Back to my original issue, I talked to the O'Reilley's here about returning the case of Delo 400 and getting some 100. No problem. The day after I talked to the store I had two cases of the proper oil and an oil filter. A forum member has offered to let me come out to his place to do the oil change, so that's in the works.