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Dash Air

Dash air working great but cannot switch from defrost to dash or floor operation.  Any ideas would be welcomed.
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'

Re: Dash Air

Reply #1
The dash dampers work on vacuum. Sounds like your vacuum pump may not be working. With no vacuum it will default to defrost.
Peter and Tammy Fleming
1991 U300 GV 40 - Sold, owned for 4 years
Downsized to Roadtrek Popular 210 class B

Re: Dash Air

Reply #2
Ours is under the front step.  Cheaper to replace with electric than a new air driven pump.  It could just be a leak.  Our tin can vacuum reservoir was starting to rust.  Or a bad hose.

Search for vacuum pump.

Rich
Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

Re: Dash Air

Reply #3
Yup, the dash HVAC vent system works on the 12 VDC vacuum pump.

Default position is DEFROST.

There are a lot of 12VDC electrical vacuum pumps out there.  Example, all Ford PU diesel have them!

Start by checking if the vacuum pump is working.  If not, check for power to it.  If it is working, check for a leak between the pump and the dash control.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Dash Air

Reply #4
They are not all electrical. Mine is still air powered.

obsolete vacuum generator
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: Dash Air

Reply #5
Your vacuum pump[ should be mounted to the firewall in the front that you access when you remove the front grill.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Dash Air

Reply #6
Remove the front grill, the pump is located on the drivers side below the AC condenser. Turn the ignition key on, you don't have to start the engine. You should be able to hear the vacuum pump run for 10 or 15 seconds and shut off IF the vacuum switch is satisfied..

If it does not run, check the relay on the firewall directly above, you can temporarily jump out the relay to see if the relay or contacts are bad. You really need a Volt meter to insure you have 12 v to the pump.

If the pump runs? Does it cycle on and off every few minutes? If the pump is working then you need to check the black hose going thru the firewall to the AC control box for vacuum.  I found that it takes a little over 6 " vac to overcome the spring on the defrost damper. SO...... low vacuum will act like NO vacuum and the air will only blow out the defrost vents. With a gauge you can also adjust the "cut in" and "cut out" settings that are located on the back of the vacuum switch.



Mine had the same symptoms as yours and I eventually found that I had an internal leak in the AC controller, found one identical to it out of a 94 chrysler New Yorker. After taking my old unit apart I think I could have fixed the leak with some silicone grease on the small hose connections to the controller and the push button slides. That's a project for another day, but it would be nice to have a spare on hand.

Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

Re: Dash Air

Reply #7
Donnie.
 Welcome to the 1995 U280 36' Unihome club.
  Isn't it handy to be able to remove the front panel and access al the front end gadgets.    At least your AC works, ours needs a compressor and a ruptured hose replaced I think. The repair is very close to the top of the list.

Just finished a direct water fill project, see level tank monitor and engine coolant flush.  Now I'm just waiting for it to get a little warmer,    102 today and 112 tomorrow:😜
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

 

Re: Dash Air

Reply #8
Thanks everyone for your responses.  All is ok, the hose came off, probably over the rough roads we hit in Quebec and New Brunswick.
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'