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M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Anyone out there have experience installing the new 2.0 system from M & G? Instructions pretty thin as published. Spoke with Monty and he sent some pictures, however they are for a previous version. Going on a 2015 Ford Explorer 2WD and will be using the breakaway system as well. Coach already plumbed by PO for air to the toad. Using a Roadmaster tow bar.
Thanks in advance
The Starship- 1990 Grandvilla Unihome U300 40ft
6V92 Detroit Diesel w/ 4 spd Allison w/ retarder. Build# 3575 , Foretravel# 17895
The Shuttlecraft- 2015 Ford Explorer
Steve ( N6EKV ) & Lori ( N6JTD ) Faries  w/ Marlee our precious pup.
Patterson CA.

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #1 –
Pretty straight forward for me Steve, I installed one on a 2001 Tahoe , and found the hardest part was moving the master cylinder forward to make room. It's nice you have air to the back of the coach. Sorry not much help. Good luck
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #2 –
Andy : New system and you no longer mess around with the master cylinder. Now have an auxiliary vacuum pump and an air cylinder to pull a cable connected to the brake pedal. Only been out a couple of months. Apparently on newer units like our Explorer moving the master cylinder forward not an option. New version is a fit all style. Don't want to start drilling random holes in the DW's car.  Take a look at there website.

Thanks 
The Starship- 1990 Grandvilla Unihome U300 40ft
6V92 Detroit Diesel w/ 4 spd Allison w/ retarder. Build# 3575 , Foretravel# 17895
The Shuttlecraft- 2015 Ford Explorer
Steve ( N6EKV ) & Lori ( N6JTD ) Faries  w/ Marlee our precious pup.
Patterson CA.

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #3 –
Got some more pictures, info, from Monty at M & G yesterday. Going to try install next week and will attempt to chronicle the install for the groups future use. A real test of my journalistic and picture taking skills. After seeing and using other posts here have a big hill to climb. Will let all know as progress occurs.

Steve
The Starship- 1990 Grandvilla Unihome U300 40ft
6V92 Detroit Diesel w/ 4 spd Allison w/ retarder. Build# 3575 , Foretravel# 17895
The Shuttlecraft- 2015 Ford Explorer
Steve ( N6EKV ) & Lori ( N6JTD ) Faries  w/ Marlee our precious pup.
Patterson CA.

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #4 –
We reviewed the new M&G system.  Pretty cool that they found a way to extend their system to fit all vehicles.  I do figure that it was going to be a problem to drill a firewall hole in the right place in our busy engine compartment Jeep Grand Cherokee.  I would also like to see M&G develop a system that fits completely inside the cabin or up behind the dash, maybe using a pulley to pull brake pedal towards floor.  Drilling a firewall hole can be problematic in some vehicles.

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #5 –
Why don't I ever see a Brake Buddy being used on the forum. It is all I have ever used and goes from one vehicle to the next?

Brake Buddy Vantage Select | Newest Towed Braking System
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #6 –
Most of us prefer systems that are controlled by the air brakes so the toad brakes are not applied when we use our retarders.
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #7 –
As far as an "under the seat" permanently mounted toad brake: Roadmaster Inc. - Tow Bars, Braking Systems & RV Accessories
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #8 –
Our toad brake is an air cylinder that we clip to a floor mount and hook over brake pedal.  Air tank in Jeep is filled with coach air, and released with 3-way electric air valve triggered by motorhome brake lights or Jeep breakaway switch.

12 volt signal from motorhome brakes is isolated from retarder which by itself will not trigger toad brake.  And dash area switches can turn off toad brake all together if desired.  Switches also can seal off motorhome air system from a leaking Jeep air connection.

We recently read that a Law Enforcement Officer requested to be shown that the toad breakaway was working.  So we tested our breakaway and were pleased to see it activated our air cylinder with being connected to motorhome.

On that same subject of LEO stops, we examined our marker lights and found two of them with partially failed LEDs.  Finding LED matching replacements was discussed in a different Forum posting.
 

Re: M & G 2.0 brake system install?

Reply #9 –
Quote from: amos.harrison –
Most of us prefer systems that are controlled by the air brakes so the toad brakes are not applied when we use our retarders.
I have the settings set where the retarder doesn't apply the brakes. There is a monitor that shows when the toad brakes are being applied. Only on high retard do they apply which I don't mind. However I can see why some people would avoid them. Putting brakes on my Jeep is only about a 20 minute job and the pads are free from Autozone after the first purchase
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean