10 Year old tires...

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Reply #25 – December 01, 2020, 06:19:46 am

DEMYFG came by way of Brad Metzger's late brother Dave

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Reply #26 – December 01, 2020, 06:58:05 am

Maybe this can serve as a convincer.

This is a quality, light truck tire, 13-years-old. It has a TOTAL of four miles of use. At 2/10 of a mile, the tread was completely lost and the tire was flat.

At a maximum of 10 MPH, this was an expensive and annoying inconvenience. But nobody was hurt, and it was all fixed with a credit card. You do not want this with an RV at 70MPH.

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Reply #27 – December 01, 2020, 09:23:28 am

Quote from: craneman – December 01, 2020, 12:57:36 am

Do what makes you feel good

For me it will be buy good tires, use a tire pressure monitoring system, put as many miles as I can and trade them in for half price at five years old and repeat process. Too cheap to change out if you think about it. IMO
Scott

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Reply #28 – December 01, 2020, 10:50:16 am

Thanks guys... I think I already knew the answer when I posted this and just needed someone (or 20 of you

) to hammer it home.

Working out a reasonable offer for these things is a challenge all of it's own!

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Reply #29 – December 01, 2020, 11:22:16 am

No matter how old your tires are, I think a TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) is essential. They will never eliminate all blowouts, but notice here posts that mention something like "I heard something and stopped at the next exit and * rear tire was blown". Undoubtedly, some of these were caused by overheating from a leaking tire that would have been known prior to the blowout if a TPMS were installed. You never know when a tire might pick up a nail, etc.

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Reply #30 – December 01, 2020, 11:28:19 am

Quote from: Dave Larsen – December 01, 2020, 11:22:16 am

No matter how old your tires are, I think a TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) is essential.

Agreed. I have a 6-sensor unit on our 5th wheel right now and hope to repurpose it for the FT. I want to have a second tpms system for the toad too but haven't figured out if I can daisy chain two repeaters yet or not. I'll need to tap the hive for collective knowledge on that too at some point

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Reply #31 – December 01, 2020, 11:36:28 am

Most of the TPMS systems should be able to add more sensors to also get your toad covered. What system do you have on your 5th?

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Reply #32 – December 01, 2020, 11:59:56 am

Quote from: kepeters – December 01, 2020, 12:50:08 am

To Post # 22

I am afraid to ask what DWMYFG stands for.

If I get censored for irrelevant postings I promise to do better.

Regards

Klaus

I don't think you need worry. IMNSHO, I've been trying to set a record for irrelevant asides ever since I joined and yours was on point.

Art

On topic. I blew a right front tire on my previous rig because of age on my way to the tire store. Not fun. I'm currently changing our two front tires on the bikes because of age, and throwing away two mint looking tires that came on spare rims but are as hard as rocks because of age, and my trailer needs a new pair of tires, again because of age. But the trailer can wait until we receive our vaccinations.

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Reply #33 – December 01, 2020, 12:59:51 pm

Tires are the MOST important!

On these coaches they don't wear out, they age out. It's just not worth the risk! As far as the cost goes ......... you just have to bite the bullet. My 2 cents!

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Reply #34 – December 01, 2020, 01:08:45 pm

I had my tire dealer check my 5 year old non-Michelin tires on my sob years ago. Made it almost 100 miles before an outside dual blew, doing enough damage to be remembered 20 years later.

I change my Michelins at 5 years or first sign of sidewall checking.

On another tack, I bought an in mounted spare for Alaska last year. At what point in time should I chuck it? All seven tires were made in 2018.

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Reply #35 – December 01, 2020, 01:57:14 pm

I'm sensing a theme here, that Michelin tires have a whole lot of problems!
I have toyos all round with 70+ thousand miles on the back and 30+ thousand on the stears, so this season I will spring for new rears.
My rear tires are at least 9 years old as they were on it when I bought the coach 9 years ago, I have used Michelin on pickups when they made tires for Sears. Last set I had were at 74k when I sold the truck. When I was still working for a living I had toyos on my welding truck, that's right, no problems.

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Reply #36 – December 01, 2020, 02:08:38 pm

My spare is in the compartment and I don't ever intend to chuck it. But it's a Michelin $:-\$ $:-\$

I've had two flats on the U300 and two on the 4107. None came apart. I even drove across two states with a vibration on a rear duel before I figured it out but the second one was outside Hoover Dam in 110 degree heat. I had to change it in the lane as there was no shoulder. Still remember that one. These were on the 4107. The U300 flats were low speed.

The almost new Michelin on our 406D came apart with a bang and in a big way at 65

Bridgestone/Firestone recommend no more than 15 years on a casing that is being used for recapping. (this was from Bridgestone site)

On the other hand, a forum member drove all the way across Mexico with only one tire on the rear right side. Why?

Pierce

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Reply #37 – December 01, 2020, 02:32:40 pm

Here's another example of bad 10 year old tires. I took these pics of a 40'+ Newmar Essex with a tag at a truck collision shop here in Biloxi in 2016. The owner had just bought the coach and was told the tires looked good. He should have inspected to see they were 10 years old and ready to blow!

He was traveling on I-10 from Florida to Colorado in July when the right front tire let go. The coach went off the highway just before crossing the Tchouticabouffa bridge and he could have ended up in the river!

Andy the shop foreman told me it was probably going to be about $30,000 in damages up front. You can see the entry steps torn off and there was a lot damage underneath. They put a tire on it to get it off the highway and then over to Southern Tire for a brand new set of Michelins. Ouch!

Jerry

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Reply #38 – December 01, 2020, 05:36:04 pm

Quote from: coastprt – December 01, 2020, 02:32:40 pm

The coach went off the highway just before crossing the Tchouticabouffa bridge and he could have ended up in the river!

Jerry

Jerry,

I just had to look up that river name because I thought you had misspelled something. Sure enough, you were right on. I guess I have crossed that river many times on I-10 but never noticed the name.

By the way, how do the locals pronounce it?

Richard

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Reply #39 – December 01, 2020, 07:32:03 pm

Quote from: Jan & Richard – December 01, 2020, 05:36:04 pm

Jerry,

I just had to look up that river name because I thought you had misspelled something. Sure enough, you were right on. I guess I have crossed that river many times on I-10 but never noticed the name.

By the way, how do the locals pronounce it?

Richard

Richard,
Pronouncing some of the names for streets, towns, rivers, etc around this part of the country can be a lot of fun like Biloxi or Pascagoula!

I've always heard it pronounced as Shoot-ti-ca-buff or Shoot-ti-ca buffa river. Say it real fast and it's easy!

It's an English attempt of a Native American name for the river kind of like Tchoupitoulas (Chop-a toolas) street in New Orleans!

Jerry

Here's a great video on how to pronounce places in Louisiana English from Christophe Landry, Ph.D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ5PZAGzbP8

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Reply #40 – December 01, 2020, 08:10:40 pm

And ask someone who never left Houston to pronounce Houma. It ain't the same!

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Reply #41 – December 05, 2020, 08:51:47 am

FWIW This is the damage a 12 inch tire can do when the lug bolts come out.

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Reply #42 – December 05, 2020, 12:03:47 pm

Torque wrench. Every time you drive it for the first week.
Remove all paint on the back of the wheel and the drum .Any place that contacts should be metal, no paint. Dont fore get Under the lug nuts..

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Reply #43 – December 05, 2020, 02:34:11 pm

"I even called Michelin and talked with their RV specialist. He said Michelin's policy is if they have been in a warehouse they are as good as new."

I documented my Michelin tire failure in an early posting so won't go into that again. My real issue had to do with their customer service and unwillingness to stand behind their product. I have three years left on these tires and I will switch to another brand. It is all about peace of mind.
I always check the date codes on tires I'm about to have mounted. High volume tire centers don't have popular tires on the racks very long. Whoever sells you tires will want to use their oldest stock first. I found that motorcycle tires were most likely to sit on a shelf the longest. Dealers have tried to sell me 5 year old tires and were surprised that I even inquired.

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Reply #44 – December 05, 2020, 03:31:30 pm

Seems as tho that all of the booms have been Michelins.
Same here , I've been in business 40yrs. . The only tires that blew were visually good Michelins. And 3 blew in the same 100 miles. Forcing tow and 6 new tires.( on my Dad's P 30 . )

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Reply #45 – December 05, 2020, 03:35:30 pm

Quote from: Protech Racing – December 05, 2020, 12:03:47 pm

Torque wrench. Every time you drive it for the first week.
Remove all paint on the back of the wheel and the drum .Any place that contacts should be metal, no paint. Don't forget Under the lug nuts..

Nice try but this ain't my first rodeo partner. If they were painted rims I'd use a single flute counter sink to remove the still soft paint from the seat. No, this goes into the same bin as the 1/4" by 4" lag bolt I found in the rear bike tire at the OxBow campground*. When I robbed a lug bolt from each of the other 3 wheels to get home they all had that too-tight crack when they broke free.

*That was 2014 and replacing that plugged tire is next on my list of things to do.

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