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paneling coming apart on driver's side

About 8 feet of paneling coming loose above storage area. It has pulled out about an inch in places. Some screws pulled completely out. I am thinking I should clean the surface with maybe a scraper of some sort add some adhesive of some sort use a size larger screw and put back together using clamps to hold in place. I have noticed in certain areas other screws have moved out maybe a quarter inch or so. Imagine this might be a common problem with a unit like mine which would require a tightening of screws on occasion. I would appreciate other comments. I am not sure my way is the best or sure way.
Thanks in advance
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on divers side

Reply #1 –
Quote from: bigfoot –
About 8 feet of paneling coming loose above storage area. It has pulled out about an inch in places. Some screws pulled completely out. I am thinking I should clean the surface with maybe a scraper of some sort add some adhesive of some sort use a size larger screw and put back together using clamps to hold in place. I have noticed in certain areas other screws have moved out maybe a quarter inch or so. Imagine this might be a common problem with a unit like mine which would require a tightening of screws on occasion. I would appreciate other comments. I am not sure my way is the best or sure way.
 Thanks in advance

We have an 86 GV... can you upload photos...  our storage areas are mounted right up to the ceiling ... not sure the location of your paneling issue ...  shifting down ?  Pulling away ?   
1986 Grand Villa, 454 Chevrolet, 33 SBI tag axle
Build # 2658
2nd owner, original owner was Newman/Freeman Racing, racer Bill Freeman and actor/racer Paul Newman

Re: paneling coming apart on divers side

Reply #2 –
If the panels you are referring to are where the outside wall attaches then I had the same problem. I removed the screws a section at a time (2ft) and replaced the screws. Where the 1 ins screws still bit into the wood I put in 11/2 ins and 2 ins for the ones with no bite, I dipped the screws in wood glue as they were installed. I believe the problem is caused by running the screws into the coach floor into the side of the plywood rather than through it's face.
Mick
Hope that makes sense to you ?
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: paneling coming apart on divers side

Reply #3 –
Thanks old English. Sorry I am unable to send pictures presently. The side of the motor home is pulling out and away, not down on the drivers side from the body immeadetly above my outside storage area. I believe I will just get one size above present size screws. I will dip them in some good wood glue with some clamps. The screws are in the 2 inch wide strip that is holding the panel to the side of the motorhome
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on divers side

Reply #4 –
Thanks. Your post made complete sense thanks
 Must be the age and all that vibration etc on an older unit. So it looks like a fairly common problem. People with older units like mine should check there screws for tightness. Once it gets away from you it becomes problematical. Wished I had caught it sooner. I was looking at the side in a picture and I could see where there was a shadow where it had pulled out some, that's how I found it.






Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on divers side

Reply #5 –
I have to confess that I was boondocking near Ventura shortly after I got the coach and looking for something to fix when I found loose screws. After I had found enough of them to know I had a problem, it was off to the hardware store. Watch out for the screws that go into steel in 2 or 3 places ! nearest to the front wheel comes to mind and back by the engine bay can't be more specific as it was 2012.
I believe the cause of the problem is running the screws into the laminations of the plywood floor, this will separate the plywood and a line of them ?
IMHO
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

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Reply #6 –
Sure hope you used stainless screws!! Otherwise you will see rust after awhile. I also used the stainless screen shown in the attached picture. Seems the wood around the old screws must decay from all the moisture/condensation that gets in the holes, plus the vibration from the coach going down the road.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: bigfoot –
About 8 feet of paneling coming loose above storage area. It has pulled out about an inch in places. Some screws pulled completely out. I am thinking I should clean the surface with maybe a scraper of some sort add some adhesive of some sort use a size larger screw and put back together using clamps to hold in place. I have noticed in certain areas other screws have moved out maybe a quarter inch or so. Imagine this might be a common problem with a unit like mine which would require a tightening of screws on occasion. I would appreciate other comments. I am not sure my way is the best or sure way.
 Thanks in advance

See the attached photo of our interior.  Are you talking about the section of paneling behind the sofa under the storage areas ??  This paneling is pulling away from the side wall of your coach ???  And the line of screws is where ? 

Thanks for any additional info you can provide.  We just want to start paying attention to areas of concern from other forum members with coaches of similar age....  the more we know.. the more we can prevent.  Thanks
1986 Grand Villa, 454 Chevrolet, 33 SBI tag axle
Build # 2658
2nd owner, original owner was Newman/Freeman Racing, racer Bill Freeman and actor/racer Paul Newman

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

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Subsilked. The screws I am talking about are the screws that hold the strip that is directly above my storage areas. Problem runs about 8 ft in length. This strip goes the length of my motor home. Probably on your 86 as well. Screws are about 8 inches apart. You should have no prob finding them. Good luck
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #9 –
This is outside your coach?
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

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Reply #11 –
I have posted a few times over the last few years about checking these trim strip screws etc. It should be every 6 months that you check them for holding power, or fix it then.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #12 –
Yes the problem is outside the coach
I have the pic. Playing around trying to send it but unsucessful.
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #13 –
Quote from: bigfoot –
Yes the problem is outside the coach
I have the pic. Playing around trying to send it but unsucessful.

Surprise
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #14 –
Had the same issue. I used a 1/4" drill bit to drill 2" deep holes thru the trim piece into the wood floor. Then epoxied (2) 1/4" x 1" fluted dowel rods in the hole and let setup overnight. I then drilled a 3/32" hole in the dowel rods and used 2" stainless screws to pull the belt line tight. This also tighten up my bay doors as the coach side of the hinge is right behind the belt line trim. I was a little worried that the 1/4" hole wouldn't leave enough metal in the trim for the screw head to bite against but so far no problems. If any pull thru I can always go to #10 screws. I only did this when a 2" screw wouldn't bite.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-Tools-1-4-in-Wood-Doweling-Kit-841014/205585492

STAINLESS STEEL OVAL HEAD PHILLIPS SHEET METAL SCREWS 8 x 2" 18-8 60 PCS....

see ya
ken
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🍺1992 U300 GrandVilla WTBI #4150 FOT FBP 2011
✨6V-92TA DDEC Parlor Coach 350HP Series 92
🏁2011 Nissan XTerra Pro-4X

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #15 –
Quote from: bigfoot –
Yes the problem is outside the coach
I have the pic. Playing around trying to send it but unsucessful.

Thank you..    thought this was inside as you said paneling....  our mid 80's coaches are floor to ceiling wood paneling and i could not figure out the 8 foot " pulling away ". 


Thanks
1986 Grand Villa, 454 Chevrolet, 33 SBI tag axle
Build # 2658
2nd owner, original owner was Newman/Freeman Racing, racer Bill Freeman and actor/racer Paul Newman

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

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Ken. Thanks for your extra explanation and your how too. Great stuff. Really interesting to see others have had this prob. I had no idea until I got some responses but it makes sense with the model yr, wear and tear vibration etc. Discussion did get others to start looking and that is what we want helping others.
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #17 –
I used wood glue and an oversized tooth pic with stainless screws. About 20,000 miles and nothing loose yet. 🤞
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR
 

Re: paneling coming apart on driver's side

Reply #18 –
Ken. Thanks for your extra explanation and your how too. Great stuff. Really interesting to see others have had this prob. I had no idea until I got some responses but it makes sense with the model yr, wear and tear vibration etc. Discussion did get others to start looking and that is what we want helping others.
Bob and Carol Cox
1987 gv 36 ft dp
Cat 3208t
2013 tundra crew cab lift