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6D Batteries - what are they.

Just a quick question, I'm looking at house batteries and I don't know what a 6D battery is?

Is it an 8D in 6 volts , or is 6D just another group size.

Thanks
Pat

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Reply #1
Group size between 4D and 8D.
BCI Battery Group Size Chart
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #2
Thank you! Great battery reference chart.

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Reply #3
4D and 8D are both 12 volts. I have never heard of 6D. The 4 and the 8 is a size reference. In all my years working with heavy equipment 8D is the most common.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #4
4D and 8D are both 12 volts. I have never heard of 6D. The 4 and the 8 is a size reference. In all my years working with heavy equipment 8D is the most common.
Used in many newer coaches as house batteries.
2017 Foretravel ih45 | Motorhomes of Texas
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #5
Bet that is a typo.  Suspect 8D's.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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But, has anyone seen a 6D installed in a motorhome by any RV manufacturer???
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
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Reply #8
Learn something every day.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #9
The 6D 6v 120ah battery is commonly used in India in railway cars for lighting and air conditioning.

The 6D 12V appears to be between the 4D and 8D in size.  See battery group size chart below.

If you saw it in reference to a US made RV, probably should be a 8D or 4D, which are both 12V.

I've sold high end Newmar King Aire RVs, Country Coach, Monaco, some on Pevost Chassis, and have never seen a 6D battery that I know of.  I've seen many other group sizes, never a 6D.  My guess, maybe a typo, could have been 6 (the number of) 8Ds.

I have seen 6V batteries connected in combination of parallel and series to yield 12V from 6V batteries, but never any called 6D. And yes the recent King Aires have 16 6V batteries.  In fact all their recent diesels use 6V batteries.

BCI Battery Group Size Chart
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Reply #10
But, has anyone seen a 6D installed in a motorhome by any RV manufacturer???
Lot of typos then, OP has a 07. MOT ad for an 08 and a 2011
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With all electric coaches, 2 or 3 8D's is marginal. They might use six 6D's because they cannot fit in six 8D's
And yes have seen either 4D's or 6D's in a King Aire at MOT last year.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #11
I stand corrected. This is from the Newmar owners manual.  All their diesels use 6V.

"The House Battery Bank is necessary to operate everything a customer may require in order to live in the unit. These batteries can be either 6 Volt deep cycle (all diesel coaches) or 12 Volt deep cycle, depending on the model and brand of the coach".

BCI Battery Group Size Chart
97 U295 40, Build #5040, 6C8.3 325 HP
Oregon Continuous Traveler
Samsung Residential #RF20HFENBSR,
Xantrex SW2012, (3)AGM8D Hse, (2)AGM Grp24 Eng, Victron BMV-712, 1800w Solar 4 LG & 2 Sunpower
Extreme Full Body Pt w/hdlmps, new furn/floor, 4 down Lexus 2004 GX470 AWD curb weight 4,740 lbs
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Reply #12
The King Aire would have had 8Ds, not 6Ds.  Agreed, I, like you, believe it was a typo, as you pointed out. Posibly should have displayed, quantity of six, 8D batteries.

Think we need to hear from pibutler again and see why he is looking for 6D batteries.

Believe newer King Aire's use sixteen 6 volt batteries, probably easier to change out than six 8D's :D  :D
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Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #13
Hi,

Thanks for the great feedback, there's a 2013 40' Nimbus at MOH that shows it has 4 6D Batteries. The chart jcus posted does show 6D Batteries. I was just curious if that was correct, but the chart does show 12 volt 6D.

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Reply #14
Hi,

Thanks for the great feedback, there's a 2013 40' Nimbus at MOH that shows it has 4 6D Batteries. The chart jcus posted does show 6D Batteries. I was just curious if that was correct, but the chart does show 12 volt 6D.

2013 Foretravel 40' Nimbus 440 | Motorhomes of Texas

(4) BCI Group 6D batteries are a little skinnier and a little taller than a what may be more common 8D, but either way you will have quite a few amp-hours to draw upon.  What with that electric cook top and all.

The only downside I see is if those really are BCI 6D battery cases, you won't be able to slide in a set of BCI 8D batteries.

Does your Seagrave have a big pump in front with an air dome?
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
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Reply #15
Hi,

Thanks for the great feedback, there's a 2013 40' Nimbus at MOH that shows it has 4 6D Batteries. The chart jcus posted does show 6D Batteries. I was just curious if that was correct, but the chart does show 12 volt 6D.

2013 Foretravel 40' Nimbus 440 | Motorhomes of Texas
Good picture of the battery bay. But 8D's, 6D's, and 4D's are so close in size, You would probably have to actually see a label, or measure battery to be sure.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #16
4D batteries are quite a bit narrower than 8D batteries, 31/2 inches narrower and 6D batteries I don't know anything about them.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #17
4D batteries are quite a bit narrower than 8D batteries, 31/2 inches narrower and 6D batteries I don't know anything about them.

BCI Group Size lists the widths as 8 3/4, 10, and 11 1/8 inches wide.  The heights are 9 7/8, 10 1.4, 9 78 inches tall.  And they're all 20 3/4 inches long.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Reply #18
Thanks for all the great feedback.

"Does your Seagrave have a big pump in front with an air dome?" No pump up front but it does have a large mechanical siren. Seagraves are the best made fire engines.

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Reply #19
Thanks for all the great feedback.

"Does your Seagrave have a big pump in front with an air dome?" No pump up front but it does have a large mechanical siren. Seagraves are the best made fire engines.

Congratulations on your Seagrave but the piston pump models seem alive when working, as does the original Curved Dash Oldsmobile at idle, rocking gently upon its springs.

When do you pick up, your new to you, 2017 IH45, now that it has already the taken initial depreciation hit and has enough miles on it to be sorted out?
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

 

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Reply #20
Just talked to Aubrey Lee at MOT.  Aubrey used to be the electrical guru at FOT. He told me Foretravel has never used 6D's in its coaches. Generally 8D's or 4D's only. Must be a new guy making the ads.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.