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Reply #25
Good info Barry!
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
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Reply #26
Who wants to be first to see if the courts and cops accept the letter as law or opinion?
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and Diane Lang
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Reply #27
 I have printed it out just in case on our way thru south I need fuel.
JohnH
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Reply #28
Gee, I guess buying the 22,500 GVW U225 was an even better idea than I thought. :P

Craig
1993 U225 36' Unihome GV with PACBRAKE exhaust retarder, Banks Stinger and Solar Panels.
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Reply #29
I have printed it out just in case on our way thru south I need fuel.
JohnH
Very good idea.  The signs at Loves at Exit 9, as well as the Smiths that sells diesel (Flying J trucks) here in Lake Havasu, are VERY clear that if you weigh 26,001 plus, and use them, you are subject to UP TO A $1000 fine per gallon...  I would want to have it on AZDOT letterhead with me.
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Reply #30
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However, Jim Koca, the Escapees advocacy director, today told RV Daily Report that his office was told by Arizona officials that ALL RVs are exempt from paying the higher fuel tax.
Yet, Harding makes it clear that is not the case.
"If the RV is being used for commercial use or the furthering of a business and weighs more than 26,000 pounds, then the driver must fill up with diesel fuel taxed at $0.26 per gallon,"

...snip...

Koca also said he was told that medium duty and heavy haulers must pay the higher tax if they weigh more than 26,000 pounds or  have 3 axles, and that non-commercial use does not come into play for those vehicles.

Is this "Tag, you're it?"
Elliott & Mary Bray
ex. 1996 36' U295 - Build 4879
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Reply #31
Speaking of fuel prices (not in AZ), a funny thing happened on the way to the casino. . .

I-44, exit 1, then short distance east, in Oklahoma a few miles north of Wichita Falls there is a new Comanche Red River Travel Plaza with half dozen gasoline pumps in front and another half dozen diesel truck pumps in the rear (and a couple of dozen slot machines inside). They also do a big tobacco business.

$2.83 for unleaded and $3.18 for diesel, which is the lowest fuel costs we have seen this year. So not only is their pump prices low, today they are running a Friday night special between 4pm and 6:30pm, reducing gasoline and diesel prices by $0.12, bring diesel down to $3.06.

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Reply #32
Right place, right time.  You must be living right....
Carolyn and Lewis (Andy1) Anderson
1996 U270 36'

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Reply #33
I keep this handy when filling up at the FlyJ/Pilot RV lane, just in case......
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Reply #34
In case of what may I ask. If you fuel at road diesel pumps what's the problem???
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
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Reply #35
I guess the problem I encountered was the big sticker for a $10,000 fine for a vehicle over 26k on the rv pump. So I went to the big rig pumps and had to prepay, but big nozzle wouldn't fit my 89 coach, so back inside to find out what to do to get fuel,  the clueless clerk sent me back to the rv pump, because no one is looking. I'm guessing the ignorance of the cash register jockey, and the later legal clarification may have been in my favor.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
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Reply #36
Well the difference is if you fill up at a truck stop and want to use the diesel fuel card for discount you are paying the higher tax rate. But, you cannot use the fuel card at regular pumps so you must figure out which is the best method. I have a letter from ADOT that I can use to show the attendant the rules of law just like above post. As we are from Canada the fuel is a lot cheaper than we pay up here so I have not been worrying about it.
If you are not using the diesel fuel card you can fill up at the auto pumps as we fall into the ruling of a non commercial vehicle of 26k weight plus
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

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Reply #37
Search old threads. The 26,000 lbs is not intended for motorhomes. There was a post with a quote from some official explaining it was for commercial vehicles.
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Reply #38
That is exactly what I was talking about and that is the letter I have in the coach
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

 

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Reply #39
Search old threads. The 26,000 lbs is not intended for motorhomes. There was a post with a quote from some official explaining it was for commercial vehicles.
The document posted by Wagon Wheel has the info. A RV/motor home is an exempt use fuel tax vehicle and if you use the use tax (Commercial) pump. You can request a refund from the clerk for the .08 cents per gallon.
I guess one needs to figure out if parking and having to go in and deal with waiting in line and a clueless clerk is worth $8 for a 100 gallon purchase.  For me, It wouldn't be a holiday cancelling loss and I haven't really needed to fill in Az all that often. So I guess I'll just consider it a donation to the cause for all the cool places we can camp at and see in Az.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
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