Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #20 – May 31, 2020, 10:17:32 pm My personal comment to customers was that these can cost $10 a mile. 10k miles over five years. $100k depreciation.I have told many customers "I am glad you used the coach more to have lowered your costs to two or three dollars a mile.Told them their used coach was worth the same to me with 10k miles or 40k miles.Why? Do you ask? Or everyone would disconnect their Speedo's. Deduct for extra miles. No add for low miles.I told them easier for me to sell with low miles. No problem,After fixing everything I laugh as going down the road I envision and have stated it's like throwing out a dollar per mile out the window.IF you get to 10 cents a mile you are very fortunate. Can you hear me talk to customers in this post as a Foretravel Sales manager? Absolutely true. Word for word.If they objected I sent them down the street many times as the grief was not worth it and the club chapter could be poisoned after all the time and money I had spent to get them fixed up and happy.$75k in 1986 and 1987. Treated them nice. Out of warranty repairs. Best Foretravel money I ever spent. 88 and 89 the store generated $2 million dollars profit, 200 units new and used.This is a pleasure item. If you get off cheap you were lucky. If not oh well. Roll the diceBob Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #21 – June 01, 2020, 12:30:22 am I do enjoy the comfort ride and quiet coming from a 1999 Bounder v-10 which was cheap to drive but I did maintain everything and upgrade the f-53 chassis. This FT is beautiful inside and out.I'll keep it for a couple years for sure. Time will tell what's next.Thanks again Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #22 – June 01, 2020, 07:07:27 am "I do enjoy the comfort ride and quiet coming from a 1999 Bounder v-10"I must be missing something here...... a quiet Bounder with a v-10? 😳Must have been parked. Sorry, couldn't resist the sarcastic comment. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #23 – June 01, 2020, 10:37:54 am He saying he enjoys the comfort and ride of the Foretravel .. coming from the bouncer.. speed reading. Commas help just a little or the ... Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #24 – June 01, 2020, 11:07:46 am I tell friends, who ask, to budget what they paid for their coach in future non-cosmetic repairs. Might not spend that much but have the money in the bank. If you can and like to DIY then this budget may be considerably less but the money needs to be there regardless. We enjoy reading all the DIY threads here....and have great respect for those who can and choose to do it. From long years of experience I know my hands are best suited for writing checks to people I know and trust.How you spend that money can be (1) in advance for known wear items, or (2) when they break. Since we plan a decade of long annual trips (4-10k miles/year) we have chosen to replace items we know are original to our 20 year old coach before they break knowing that they will likely outlast our ownership, e.g., shocks, air bags, fuel lines, radiator (at first sign of leakage), and brakes. We're also religious on annual service (fluids and all filters) regardless of mileage. Have we spent more than "needed"....yes....but the peace of mind and 3 trouble free years of retirement adventures made it worth it to us. And, yes, we also have Coach-Net....just in case. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #25 – June 01, 2020, 01:00:00 pm Sorry. I meant the FT is way more quiet and better ride than the Bounder Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #26 – June 01, 2020, 01:35:50 pm Quote from: dans96u295ft – June 01, 2020, 01:00:00 pmSorry. I meant the FT is way more quiet and better ride than the BounderHence the name "Bounder."P Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #27 – June 01, 2020, 01:50:14 pm We have an old 2002 travel trailer that we bought used in 2005 for $8000. It has provided us trouble-free time all these years. We call her "old trusty". Just last month the air conditioner quit cooling. First problem we've ever had with it (other than constantly having to guard against leaks from all the seams and roof) - and a couple of new capacitors fixed that. But I always wanted a motor coach, so we got the Foretravel for less than a new 5th wheel trailer would cost. Yes, it has been somewhat expensive and yes, it has stranded me on the side of I-10 in August (air dryer failure). Yes, the tires are expensive - as are the oil changes. Trailer is CHEAP. Both fun. Just different kinds of fun. Love having the motorhome. If you don't love it as much, or don't want to spend the money maintaining it - get out of it. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #28 – June 01, 2020, 02:38:18 pm Time will answer all Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #29 – June 01, 2020, 05:50:00 pm I share your pain. I've owned mine almost four years, still feel like a newbie. I've actually RV'd since I was nine years old from coast to coast and border to border. We hope to become full timers late fall or at least by Christmas. When I'm running down the road in my U270 it's a magic carpet ride; my wife loves the layout, updated interior, storage, and the wonderful fit and finish. Everything is so solid. I'm often overwhelmed by the complexity. Once I have the house on the market (soon I hope) it will be possible to focus more on the coach and less on everything else. I've put 20,000 miles on my coach with just limited time available. It is easily four times more expensive to operate than my old crappy trailers, but my wife could no longer travel while we pulled a trailer. It caused her back to ache. If it weren't for the forum, I would have to bail out for something else. However, I know and understand the coach much better today than four years ago, that's for sure. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #30 – June 01, 2020, 07:41:04 pm We have owned our 295 for 14 years 2nd owner. We have been full time for 6 years usually 10-15 thousand miles a year. I do all the work on the coach myself to date. Now with that said I'm getting older, thecoach is getting older, so that may change. But if you cant take DIY some of the small stuff, motor homes can get costly quickly. The only way I would go to a 5th wheel is it it went north to one place then south to one place, then I would pay to have it hauled instead of owning a 60K truck. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #31 – June 01, 2020, 08:19:45 pm Realmccoy, I agree the forum and the FT tech line has saved me plenty of headaches and dollars. Learned a lot in less than a year of ownership.I do appreciate all the help from so many on here. Good stuff in a world gone maddddddd Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #32 – June 01, 2020, 08:42:04 pm Having been in the RV industry 54 years, I just sit back and look at the cabinets, at wonder. Such quality, not sticks and staples!PricelessCW Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #33 – June 01, 2020, 09:06:50 pm I would not trade my 1994 GrandVilla for any other motorhome or trailer. Very comfortable, Simple systems, no slides, 40' of rock solid construction materials. Lube, Oil, and filters, check air pressure in tires, general maintenance as systems age out. Has not let me down, YET I will be leaving Wednesday 06/03 from Florida to go to Ohio to see Family on Our annual summer outing. Coach is 26 years old and just getting broke in.......... Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #34 – June 01, 2020, 11:09:11 pm I'M GETTING MORE CONFIDENCE!!!! Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #35 – June 02, 2020, 08:38:49 am Quote from: dans96u295ft – June 01, 2020, 11:09:11 pmI'M GETTING MORE CONFIDENCE!!!!I'm getting new headlights. Quote Selected
Re: Pusher problems scare me Reply #36 – June 02, 2020, 11:34:49 am Quote from: Old Toolmaker – June 02, 2020, 08:38:49 amI'm getting new headlights.Just put LED bulbs in them, 100% better. Cheap as chips.CW Quote Selected