Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #20 – November 26, 2020, 10:53:42 am Check the beach for other big coaches. We've parked our old SOB right next to the water just south of Mūlege where the sand is hard. Baja Beach RV Snowbird Paradise - Bahía Concepción - Manzanillo Sun. No tide, no waves, warm crystal clear water and the best fishing in the world. Where to Stop in Bahía ConcepciónPierce Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #21 – November 26, 2020, 11:39:21 am Quote from: Old Toolmaker – November 26, 2020, 09:11:57 amIn 1906 the Stanley Brothers with Fred Marriot at the wheel set a world land speed record on Ormond Beach. The tide was out, the sand was damp and well packed. But the tide does tend to come back in.And the Daytona stock car race started off with half the oval on the beach. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #22 – November 26, 2020, 11:46:25 am Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – November 26, 2020, 10:53:42 amCheck the beach for other big coaches. We've parked our old SOB right next to the water just south of Mūlege where the sand is hard. Baja Beach RV Snowbird Paradise - Bahía Concepción - Manzanillo Sun. No tide, no waves, warm crystal clear water and the best fishing in the world. Where to Stop in Bahía ConcepciónPierceStayed there. Bahia Coyote. Found out after a week there is a fresh water bath coming out of the cliff at the far end. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #23 – November 26, 2020, 11:57:23 am I can firsthand tell you thst that big wreckers are expensive and big wreckers with beach capability are more expensive..much more Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #24 – November 26, 2020, 12:26:22 pm Quote from: Chuck Pearson – November 25, 2020, 02:38:54 pmone of the most feared predators of all, the dreaded Sand Shark. Amazing how far they will travel inland. Earlier this week across the street there was a truck stuck in the sandy road. They were backing up to dump appliances in the desert. Kept a eye on them and shortly there was another truck out there pulling them out. About two hours latter I drove out there on the Honda ST90 to let them know how to get them self's out. They asked me to pull them out, and I declined. Explained to let some air out of their 3/4 Ton truck 80 psi tires and don't spin the tires in low range. 20 minutes later they were both out. Next day I took the backhoe out and repaired the road and desert as best I could. Picked up appliances they dumped and ran them to the city dump. Haven't had rain in 220 days. As soon as the crust is broken it turns into a simple math problem. Too much weight, not enough square inches of tire floatation. Another example of my Foretravel work distractionsScott Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #25 – November 26, 2020, 02:36:57 pm Can you drive it ON to the beach, probably.Can you drive it back OFF the beach, not so much. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #26 – November 26, 2020, 03:20:13 pm It's the first thing that we noticed about the Texas (3rd) coast. Lots more RVs on the beach than you would ever see on the Oregon coast. Mostly because of the tides I believe, since the west coast tide can change up to 4ft and Texas maybe 4". All guesstimates but it's a huge difference. You can park 30 ft from the water and in the morning still be 25' from water. West coast 30' from the water will put you in the water in the am. People even do tents closer to the ocean than I'd do. Having said that, I heard the it's also one of the most corrosive beaches. They ( Corpus Christi ) have under body car washes in lots of places to get things rinsed off. Little small for coaches though. What we did was bought some salt treatment for rinsing the bottom of the coach,, we didn't park on the beach but about 100 yards from it. Port Aransas is an amazing place to visit but.. I have mixed emotions about traveling there because of the corrosion. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #27 – November 26, 2020, 06:32:24 pm I'll be blunt.Of course one can drive onto a beach. It's the driving off the beach that can be tricky and uber costly.In my estimation. It's just not worth the cost to brag to friends on social media about ones escapades of camping in a bus on the beach. But if you have money to burn on towing and future corrosion issues. Go for it. There is nearly nothing within the law that one can't do. It's a matter of "should" you. I say no. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #28 – November 26, 2020, 11:29:59 pm I was watching a video about a Prevost stuck on the beach. A Cat D6 is called to pull the bus out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmSnHiJugqYWondering how big that bill is? Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #29 – November 27, 2020, 11:29:51 am If your going to be dumb you have to be tough. I'm sure they still laugh about itScott Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #30 – November 27, 2020, 01:36:39 pm In Baja, it was almost impossible to get stuck no matter how large and heavy your RV was. Many access roads were easy off, easy on and if you did mange to somehow get stuck, it would be an occasion for the Mexicans to come over, BBQ some fish, drink a few beers and then daisy chain their cars and PUs to pull you out. All with a smile and a wave.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #31 – December 02, 2020, 10:20:52 pm My 36 foot GV, RV gets bogged on flat hard packed gravel roads, Mine weighs twelve TONSTake it on a sandy road or beach, Not a chance, The question to ask your self, Is how much is a very large truck, Tow truck going to charge to drag you out, And Drag is the key word, You wont be driving it out, Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #32 – December 02, 2020, 11:10:50 pm I've been driving my bus conversion and U300 on beaches forever and never had them get close to stuck. Never dropped tire pressure either.Here is an example of a bigger and heavier RV than ours on a Baja beach. Probably at least 5K heavier and the toad may be 5 thousand pounds. Since there is almost no tide when you get as far south as Múlege, many beaches are hard enough to put a wheel in the water without getting stuck. No tide and waves also means little blowing sand so the beach is very hard. Yes You Can RV Baja, California Mexico In A Big RigHere in the West, big RVs travel on dirt and gravel roads all the time without getting stuck. Expect most of it has to do with the experience of the operator. Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #33 – December 03, 2020, 08:30:28 am As said before, beach composition is not the same everywhere. Ranges from powder that won't support a person without burying their shoes to close to rock hard.Said another way, depends on the beach. If you see deep tire tracks, don't even think about it. If you see heavy vehicle parked there with little or no tire tracks-- completely different matter. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #34 – December 03, 2020, 11:25:10 am Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – December 02, 2020, 11:10:50 pmI've been driving my bus conversion and U300 on beaches forever and never had them get close to stuck. Never dropped tire pressure either.Here is an example of a bigger and heavier RV than ours on a Baja beach. Probably at least 5K heavier and the toad may be 5 thousand pounds. Since there is almost no tide when you get as far south as Múlege, many beaches are hard enough to put a wheel in the water without getting stuck. No tide and waves also means little blowing sand so the beach is very hard. Yes You Can RV Baja, California Mexico In A Big RigHere in the West, big RVs travel on dirt and gravel roads all the time without getting stuck. Expect most of it has to do with the experience of the operator. PierceI've traveled the Baja Peninsula since I was a kid in every mode of transportation possible. From motorcycles, fast cars, 4x4s, to Foretravels, been stuck in everyone. Have helped countless others get free from the clutches of sand from San Felipe to Cabo San Lucas.... Pacific side/Sea of Cortez side. Don't have to get off the BEATEN PATH very far and you'll find yourself stuck in the sand. It's part of the adventure in Baja just come prepared. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #35 – December 03, 2020, 07:02:58 pm Here is a good example of beaches with easy access and impossible to scrape the belly or get stuck in the sand. I first discovered Mulegé right after the paved road was completed from TJ to Cabo back in October of 1973. Bahia de Conceptión is just several minutes south of town with lots of campgrounds close to the highway and for $5 to $10/night. Hotel Serinidad is famous for the pig roasts on the weekend and on New Years. We've made it here twice to bring in the New Year. They have a few spots for RVs and a good airstrip next to the ranch style hotel. Visiting the first time, we went up to the old prison, closed but it still had one crazy guy on a long chain. He would growl and leap at you but was harmless. When the prison was in operation, the guards would blow on a conch shell at 4:30 for the inmates to return from working in town. The water is crystal clear much of the year with fish everywhere. Lots of rays but they see you coming and move out of the way. Great for fishing, ATVs to abandon missions, kayaking, etc. Here is an example of beach camping in a car to the longest RV. Most are close to the road but some are a couple of miles so checking with a toad is recommended. Lots of YouTube videos on Baja so if you like beach camping, great food and the ocean, this is the place. This video shows the easy access and all the sites from a drone. I even spotted some Formosa built sailboats. Best drone footage is toward the end after he stops talking.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZCkdsvbdgPierce Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #36 – December 03, 2020, 08:38:26 pm Yup, drove the Baja right after it was paved.Due to Government/Pemex mis-planning, gas stations were not open yet. Line over 2 miles long. They were pumping fuel from 55 gallon drums on the back of a flat bed.BUT, I was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel. Bought fuel off the shrimp boats.Remember harvesting shell fish using the tire iron near Mulegé.Seem like a LONG time ago-- wait, that WAS a long time ago. Quote Selected
Re: Can 40ft GV be driven on the beach for boondocking? Reply #37 – December 03, 2020, 09:08:02 pm Yes, no tanker in Mulege so we waited in line for the fuel to arrive. We had a VW PU with a fold down side and an 8 foot pram. Sailed across the Bahia de Conceptión to the far side. A PBY Catalina flying boat went over the top and then the wind came up when we were half way back. Exciting and a little scary. Camped at Coyote or the one in the video. Can't remember.The tin church that Eiffel built in Paris is worth seeing in Santa Rosalia and Loreto is a nice city on the ocean with an International Airport. With climate change, quite a few hurricanes hit Baa so you have to check road conditions as there may be detours where bridges are being repaired. No vehicle permit or tourist permit needed for all of Baja and only liability insurance for your driver's license or vehicle needed. PiercePierce Quote Selected