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2002 ISL 400 starter

Does anyone know if there was a improved part number for the starter. Another victim of a overheated solenoid failure.
2002 ISL 400 on a U295 or possibly just the solenoid part number
Scott

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Hey Scott, if you haven't already, go to Cummins Quickserve online and create an account for free.  Put in the engine serial number and you can find all of these kinds of things pretty easily.  They have exploded views, etc.

Cummins QuickServe Online

I could not see my engine serial number, so I called the mothership and they gave it to me.
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

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This is the part # I found for our 2004 ISL 400: 3921402
Bruce & Linda
2004 U295, Build # 6268, ISL400 CAPS
2016 Ford Explorer Sport or 1985 Jeep CJ7

Re: 2002 ISL 400 starter

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Quote from: WS6_Keith –
Hey Scott, if you haven't already, go to Cummins Quickserve online and create an account for free.  Put in the engine serial number and you can find all of these kinds of things pretty easily.  They have exploded views, etc.

Cummins QuickServe Online

I could not see my engine serial number, so I called the mothership and they gave it to me.
I actuallly tried to but  my internet would not connect with them. Has happened before , will try again. Was hoping someone would have the deco remy upgraded number for Jim. I'll try again

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8200433 39MT Starter Motor | Product Details | Delco Remy
Delco remy upgraded starter Part No. 8200433 — 39MT Starter Motor
Stock number  CUMMINS Part Number 3921402
Amazon.com: Delco Starter DR 8200433 : Automotive
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Re: 2002 ISL 400 starter

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That's the one that I used, too. My OEM starter grounded via the 3 mounting bolts, but the Delco Remey must be grounded at the specified post.  Rather than run a new full length grounding cable I used a short jumper from the original mounting lug to the specified post on the other side of the starter.  Heat wrapped the exhaust in that area too.  Not ideal, and I always intended to make and reroute a new ground cable.  When I measured the voltage drop, however, it was only 1/2 volt from the battery post to the NEG- starter terminal.  I decided I could live with that.  It's worked fine for years.
Mark, Monique & Steven Hachigian
2004 36U295 Build No. 6239
2011 Honda CRV 4WD
2024 Dynamax Isata 5 30fw Xplorer

Re: 2002 ISL 400 starter

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Quote from: Hach –
That's the one that I used, too. My OEM starter grounded via the 3 mounting bolts, but the Delco Remey must be grounded at the specified post.  Rather than run a new full length grounding cable I used a short jumper from the original mounting lug to the specified post on the other side of the starter.  Heat wrapped the exhaust in that area too.  Not ideal, and I always intended to make and reroute a new ground cable.  When I measured the voltage drop, however, it was only 1/2 volt from the battery post to the NEG- starter terminal.  I decided I could live with that.  It's worked fine for years.
We'll just saw your post. We did basically the same install. Rerouted the main start cable behind the starter to get it away from the exhaust temperature. Pushed the new 4 oooo cable as far as possible from exhaust. Also covered power cable and temperature sensor forward of the starter with firesleeve to further protect from the heat. Starts and cranks simulate to original starter. He sourced starter from Carquest. Don't know cost or part number, but they did have it available in 16 hours. All is good.

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Scott
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Woo hoo!  Looks like the Q trip is still on.  :)
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

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Really nice job, Scott.  I'm sure your 4/0 cable and my 3/0 cable accounts for my .5V drop.  Love the silicone sleeve heat protection.  In addition to wrapping my exhaust I used heat resistant split loom good to 500 degrees.  I will also be wrapping those 12V wires with protective split loom.  As we've all discussed before this is a real vulnerable spot to heat.  My 12V wire melted and shorted to the starter motor case leading to my failure.  Your pictures reveal a material improvement in reliability and safety IMHO.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/department/exhaust/section/heat-protection/brand/vibrant-performance/product-line/vibrant-performance-heat-protect-flexible-sleeving/part-type/heat-sleeves?fr=part-type&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Default&PageRollup=ProductName&obanner=HP50IPinterest
Mark, Monique & Steven Hachigian
2004 36U295 Build No. 6239
2011 Honda CRV 4WD
2024 Dynamax Isata 5 30fw Xplorer
 

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Quote from: Hach –
Really nice job, Scott.  I'm sure your 4/0 cable and my 3/0 cable accounts for my .5V drop.  Love the silicone sleeve heat protection.  In addition to wrapping my exhaust I used heat resistant split loom good to 500 degrees.  I will also be wrapping those 12V wires with protective split loom.  As we've all discussed before this is a real vulnerable spot to heat.  My 12V wire melted and shorted to the starter motor case leading to my failure.  Your pictures reveal a material improvement in reliability and safety IMHO.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/department/exhaust/section/heat-protection/brand/vibrant-performance/product-line/vibrant-performance-heat-protect-flexible-sleeving/part-type/heat-sleeves?fr=part-type&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Default&PageRollup=ProductName&obanner=HP50IPinterest
Ive been using firesleeve for forty years. Great stuff. I genuinely wish I had had some fore thought to save a bunch of it over the years that I discarded without any thought. Hundreds of feet. Now I purchase new and regret having to pay for it. Live and learn.
Scott