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Refrigerator operation while driving

 INot being the super technical type of guy...and the instructions don't really state,  can you run the refrigerator on electric rather than gas while driving? If everything is operating normally your house batteries should be charging while moving anyway right?  A few of my friends motorhomes require operation on propane while driving which,in my opinion, is dangerous
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

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Are you running your generator while driving?  If so and the fridge is set on auto it should automatically switch to electric rather than gas.  Other than that you'd have to have your electric element hooked up to the inverter for it to supply power to the fridge.  Then change it back when stopped so you don't run your house batteries down.
I just leave my fridge in auto and let it do its thing.
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1987 log cabin
2011 Roadtrek C210P
no longer 1999 36' U320 build #5522
2013 Rzr 570 & 2018 Ranger XP1000
2006 Lexus GX470
2011 Tahoe LT 4x4
Previous 1998 45' 2 slide Newell, 1993 39' Newell

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...can you run the refrigerator on electric rather than gas while driving?
Peter,

Short answer is Yes, as long as your inverter is turned on, and the fridge is plugged into a inverter powered outlet.

Alternator charges house (coach) batteries through the battery isolator.  Coach batteries power the inverter.  Inverter powers the fridge.

Of course, if you are running the generator while driving (to power roof air conditioners) then the fridge can be powered directly off the generator.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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I run mine off an inverted plug. I have a device on the ignition key to remind me to turn off the inverter before I turn off the engine.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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...you'd have to have your electric element hooked up to the inverter for it to supply power to the fridge.  Then change it back when stopped so you don't run your house batteries down.
On our '93 U280, and probably on Twig's '94 coach, there were two factory installed 110V outlets in the fridge compartment.  One was on a "non-inverter" circuit and the other was on a "inverter" circuit.  To switch the electric power source for the fridge you could simply move the plug.  I was able to do this by reaching through the (open) vent hatch (behind the fridge compartment) while standing outside the coach.

Newer coaches might not have this feature - I don't know.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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I am not sure how to check if the fridge is hooked up to the inverter. Perhaps by looking at the power draw on my Magnum 2812 when I turn on the fridge.
I am not in the habit of running the generator while driving as we do not use the AC while driving.
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

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On our '93 U280, and probably on Twig's '94 coach, there were two factory installed 110V outlets in the fridge compartment.  One was on a "non-inverter" circuit and the other was on a "inverter" circuit.  To switch the electric power source for the fridge you simply moved the plug.  I was able to do this by reaching through the (open) vent hatch (behind the fridge compartment) while standing outside the coach.

Newer coaches might not have this feature - I don't know.


I actually never gave any thought to the dual outlets. Been looking at them for weeks it seems like. I'll verify today . Great side note of information.
Thanks Scott

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1.  I am not sure how to check if the fridge is hooked up to the inverter.

2.  I am not in the habit of running the generator while driving as we do not use the AC while driving.
1.  Disconnect shore power.  Generator off.  Inverter turned on.  Will fridge run in electric mode?  If it does, it's on inverter circuit.

2.  Come visit the balmy Desert SouthWest during the summer (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada).  You WILL use your air conditioner(s) while driving.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Chuck
Would love to visit you guys and those states.....Now, if they open the border to us Canadians that would be great!
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

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With an LP gas refrigerator the inverter outlet powers the ice maker in the refrig. The other outlet is powered by shore line or generator and if power is available there the refrig will switch to 120 v operation, if not it runs on LP.  If you are not using the ice maker you can plug the LP refrig into the inverter socket and with the inverter on it will run on inverter power while driving.

If you switch to a residential refrig is should be on the inverter circuit and the inverter should be on for it to operate while driving. 

Running either on the inverter uses more power, watch your batteries.  Original inverters used about 5-6 amps per hour just to be on. A new Victron Multiplus uses less than 1 amp per hour to be on.  Or you can add a smaller dedicated inverter for the refrig that uses even less power to be on.  An LP refrig uses 120v for a heating element so size for that load.  A residential refrig will state the max amp load in its specs.  This is usually for a warm startup, not what it normally uses but occasionally.  Our Samsung says 6 amps or 720 watts.  Buy a small inverter for that load. 
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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So went out and verified upper white duplex is threw inverter. It is mounted ground lug up on mine. Also noted the inverter load showed 20 amp indicated draw and zero with the fridge. I put a amp meter on the fridge and it showed 3.7 amps during run. Who knows, not worried about that ball with all the others in the air. Great info though. Would consider running inverter over generator going down the road.
Scott

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On our '93 U280, and probably on Twig's '94 coach, there were two factory installed 110V outlets in the fridge compartment.  One was on a "non-inverter" circuit and the other was on a "inverter" circuit.  To switch the electric power source for the fridge you could simply move the plug.  I was able to do this by reaching through the (open) vent hatch (behind the fridge compartment) while standing outside the coach.

Newer coaches might not have this feature - I don't know.


This is the best way to do it but it will only work if your ice maker is the one with it's own compressor. Unfortunately mine is not so I ran an extension cord from the microwave socket.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Our Norcold has a display with all the info plus it tells if on AC or gas. While on the road, I use it on gas. I will switch to AC when our inverter is on with the solar working while at a campsite but we don't leave the coach for any length of time without turning the inverter off. The fridge then automatically switches to gas. The propane usage is so small that running for a week does not move the gauge on the tank more than a needle width.

The engine heats the water heater so no need to keep it on while underway. Because of the water heater noise, we only have it on when we are going to need it.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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This is the best way to do it but it will only work if your ice maker is the one with it's own compressor. Unfortunately mine is not so I ran an extension cord from the microwave socket.
Funny how all the coaches can differ.  Our coach had the stand-alone ice maker in the hutch across the hall from the fridge.  Our Dometic gas/electric fridge did not have a built-in ice maker.  The two outlets behind our fridge were both duplex outlets, so I had 2 inverter outlets and 2 non-inverter outlets to play with.

All that electric stuff was completely overhauled when we installed the residential fridge (which always runs on inverter).

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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I normally run the inverter while on the road. I do so because I run my old Ipod classic through a 110V Klipsch MP3 player on the dash. So the fridge auto switches to AC. My fridge also switches to AC when on shore power and the inverter is off. So I guess it swings both ways on the same plug.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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I normally run the inverter while on the road. I do so because I run my old Ipod classic through a 110V Klipsch MP3 player on the dash. So the fridge auto switches to AC. My fridge also switches to AC when on shore power and the inverter is off. So I guess it swings both ways on the same plug.
Yes mine was powered up on external then when it was shut down powered up on inverter. Upper duplex plug white that is upside down.

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  A few of my friends motorhomes require operation on propane while driving which,in my opinion, is dangerous

I understand the concern, we all should make informed decisions and do what we are comfortable with. This is a topic that we will not all agree with here on the forum. I have always run our fridge on propane, traveling or parked, with few exceptions. If kept properly cleaned and serviced, it has been my experience that it cools better on propane than electric. Mostly so in the hotter climates, where the gas produces more btu's than the electric element. I know the risk and because we boondock without solar, it works for us.

The choice to travel with electric on using the inverter is a good one, or if you have the 3 way fridge, operation on 12 volt works too.

Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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No issues 20 yrs. knock on wood, Snowbirding/boondocking 3 month stretch each year... turn fridge on gas when we leave home turn it off when back home.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

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Reply #18
No issues 20 yrs. knock on wood, Snowbirding/boondocking 3 month stretch each year... turn fridge on gas when we leave home turn it off when back home.

Every coach I have had in 40+ years,I leave it on gas manual, unless we are parked for a long period.Then it goes to auto mode. I don't like the gen set, making the board switch back and forth.
One also needs to ck that the flame has not gone out. Not very often, but trucks and wind can suck the flame out, even after the board tries 3 times..
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

 

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Left mine on propane for 45 years. No issues
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.