Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Topic: Hydraulic motor fan fitting (Read 719 times) previous topic - next topic

Hydraulic motor fan fitting

December 30, 2021, 02:39:03 pm

Shared album - April & Charlie Mowery - Google Photos

Can you guys help me find this fitting that goes with/into the Hydraulic fan motor

Broken fitting I am needing to replace is last photo
Other photos is where fitting connects/goes
Assembly photo doesnt reference this fitting

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #1 – December 30, 2021, 04:35:59 pm

The last photo of the fitting - looks like a JIC 37 degree flare. The other end could be a straight pipe thread. Can't tell for sure.

If you turn the fitting around to look at the other side of the rusty part with the wrench flats, what does it look like? Does it seal with a O-ring against a flat steel surface where it is screwed in?

Thread ID Made Easy. Learn All About Different Types of Threads

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #2 – December 30, 2021, 04:47:04 pm

The mechanic is sending the special fitting to me, I should have it on Tuesday.
Called Foretravel and asked for them to send a picture of the replacement motor assembly, and the new motor has two bolts on sides holding the flange in place and looks like only one center hydraulic line would hook up?
Has anyone got a photo of their hydraulic fan motor they could send me showing if the 3 hydraulic lines are connected/ needed or if just center hydraulic line will suffice?

Shared album - April & Charlie Mowery - Google Photos

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #3 – December 30, 2021, 05:43:51 pm

Quote

Has anyone got a photo of their hydraulic fan motor

Here's a couple of mine.
jor

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #4 – December 31, 2021, 02:24:24 pm

Hi April,

I thought that I'd respond to your email on the forum. First of all, I feel your frustration on this matter because I was sidelined for 7 months during prime RV season (from last spring snow to the first fall snow) and didn't get to use my new purchase. What should have been a 4-hour job turned into a global parts search nightmare during the worst supply chain crisis in recent memory.

You say that your motor has three hoses going into the motor and a picture of my old motor does not. I really can't account for this because I was not the one working on it. I am attaching all pics that I got from the mechanic prior to repair. I also attached one pic that was supplied from another forum member showing a very clean install.

I would have gladly paid Foretravel the $4K-$5K for the new correct part, but it was it already two months past when they expected to get it. Out of desperation, I paid $1600 to Visone (the suggested junkyard on this forum) to send the two hydraulic motors to the mechanic. I supplied the correct part numbers, but they still sent the wrong motors. and they sent the entire fan too. Even though the motors were wrong, the attached VALVE (that's where all the money is by the way) was correct enough. They installed onto the old motors and away we went.

As far as Foretravel (I usually speak with Brad), If they have the correct parts, buy them quickly. Because of the high acquisition cost, I've heard that they order five of those special-order motors at a time. It takes months to restock.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #5 – December 31, 2021, 02:25:06 pm

The photos with Fan attached are the wrong-numbered Visone parts with the VALVE removed.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #6 – December 31, 2021, 02:28:17 pm

Bob,

Is that a feathering fan on a hydraulic fan motor-- weird!

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #7 – December 31, 2021, 02:36:03 pm

What is a feathering fan?

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #8 – December 31, 2021, 02:40:18 pm

Clutch fan?

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #9 – December 31, 2021, 02:53:19 pm

Thank you for the help

I wonder if visone has any more motors.

It looks like they might have removed that valve off of one of the motors they sent to you?

As it looks to be missing from the side?

Did your mechanic add your valve back onto the visione motor?

Otherwise the fan will run full speed at all times
Is this the correct assumption?

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #10 – December 31, 2021, 02:56:51 pm

Feathering Fan? You got me

All I know is that I need part 55101142183 and Visone sent me 51101095210. Doh!
One of fans is cracked where they probably attempted a removal, just they just sent the fan along with the motor.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #11 – December 31, 2021, 03:01:39 pm

Did you use the motors that visone sent you?
You said the parts number were wrong...?
I am being told I need 51101142183(has valve)
As in attached picture.
Does your new set up have the 3 hoses going in or just middle one?

Are these motors (that visone sent) the secondary motors and labeled with other part #

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #12 – December 31, 2021, 03:02:25 pm

Quote from: Natural State of Wander – December 31, 2021, 02:53:19 pm

It looks like they might have removed that valve off of one of the motors they sent to you?

As it looks to be missing from the side?

Visone sent the wrong motors, but it supposedly it had the correct valve attached to one of them.

The mechanic pulled the valve from the Visone motors and put in on my original motors.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #13 – December 31, 2021, 03:04:21 pm

Gotcha

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #14 – December 31, 2021, 03:09:05 pm

Quote from: Natural State of Wander – December 31, 2021, 03:01:39 pm

Did you use the motors that visone sent you?
You said the parts number were wrong...?
I am being told I need 51101142183(has valve)
As in attached picture.
Does your new set up have the 3 hoses going in or just middle one?

Are these motors (that visone sent) the secondary motors and labeled with other part #

Nope, I never used the Visone motors because the mechanic said that they wouldn't fit. I have them sitting in the corner of the garage. A very expensive wall ornament.
Since the original valve was the show-stopper, the mechanic pulled the used valve from the Visone-supplied motor to make it work. I have never seen it prior to installation, so I don't know how many ports it contained.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #15 – December 31, 2021, 03:42:09 pm

Feathering fan= fan with variable pitch that can change blade angle.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #16 – December 31, 2021, 03:49:43 pm

Would they be internally controlled by temperature? Don't see any air line connections.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #17 – December 31, 2021, 04:23:35 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – December 31, 2021, 03:42:09 pm

Feathering fan= fan with variable pitch that can change blade angle.

Like a Flex-A-Lite?

Belt-Driven Fans

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #18 – December 31, 2021, 05:11:01 pm

You need to be pretty desperate to buy something from Visone, unless you can't find it somewhere else.

Re: Hydraulic motor fan fitting

Reply #19 – December 31, 2021, 09:15:07 pm

Quote from: rbark – December 31, 2021, 05:11:01 pm

You need to be pretty desperate to buy something from Visone, unless you can't find it somewhere else.

'Pretty Desperate' was an understatement. I was already on the phone with several hydraulic suppliers around the country. Brad from Foretravel was very patient with my frequent 'parts status' calls. The parts were on a ship from the UK that just wasn't coming. When it came down to it, there was one valve that sidelined my coach for the 7 months that I owned it and an additional preceding TWO Years that it sat in the previous owners garage. That failed part alone was enough to drop the sale price almost in half. I got a beautiful coach, but underestimated how tough that part was going to be to replace.

I Was Desparate

Visone had the part and charged me handsomely for it.

Affiliate Notice