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Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Hello Foretravelers,
Just got back from taking our coach out to an RV park to do some spring cleaning and prepping for sale. There were a couple of things I couldn't solve:
1) Water comes out the back end (hose intake) when I turn on the coach water pump while the hose is disconnected from city water. Will a new check valve solve this problem?
2) I couldn't seem to re-engage the greywater plunger to completely seal it after draining and flushing. Had to drain it completely before capping.

Just checking to see if either of these might be straightforward fixes worth saving the standard $160/hr?

Suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Mike




2003 U320 3820 Designer Series

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #1
Two check valves. One in the pump, one in the fill path. I replaced the pump and then the fill check valve last year. Problem solved. Same year coach.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #2
For #1, sounds like the check valve for shore water inlet needs to be replaced.

For #2, you can try spraying silicone lube on the plunger handle and work the blade.  Worse case is just replace the valve-- not expensive and just 4 bolts (at least on earlier models).
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #3
Temp cap with plastic male hose plug, the freshwater input when hose is removed until fixed. Good emergency cheap part to carry.

Male Hose Plug

Close gray & black drain valves, pour in a couple quarts of inexpensive vegetable oil. Let it settle to bottom, then many quick open/close drain valves could coat & lube the valves and make them easy to open and close. Good periodic maintenance step to do.

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #4
Agree on trying vegetable oil as a blade lubricant.

But, oil floats on water, so to get it to the valves, the tank will have to be completely empty. Easy to pour some down the toilet for the black tank.  Gray is a little more difficult as the P traps have water in them.  If you have either compressed air or a 3" or so diameter hose, you can blow out the P trap before adding the vegetable oil.

Good luck.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #5
This is a little late but when using split bolts, after making the connection and think you have it tight you need to twist and move connection around for a little bit and then go and retighten.  You will be amazed when you go and retighten how loose is was.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #6
Hey, thanks guys! I knew I can count on some of my favorite guys on the best of forums!

Will tinker and report back...

Mike
2003 U320 3820 Designer Series

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #7
Our first RV was a 5th wheel with four dump valves to control black/gray/macerator.  Each valve had a grease zirk installed just above the pull handle.  I thought this was normal and applied a shot of grease every now and then when pulling or pushing the handle had increased resistance.  Had the rig for 12 years and some time during that period had to replace one of the valves because it was leaking.  Looked all over for a replacement valve with grease zirk.  None could be found.  I then realized the manufacture had installed the zirks.  All that was required was drilling a small hole in the valve and screwing in the zirk.  Valves on our Foretravel are hidden behind a wall so this solution isn't feasible without a lot of trouble.
David & Sherry Kendrick
"Gizmo" The Doggy Lama
USAF(Ret) 1971-75; 1979-95 (20 yrs)
2003 U320 F03 [6179] 38PBDS (3/2016)
2016 Chev Silverado Z71 LTZ
Motorcade 17738
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New Horizons 5W 25' RKS (1/2004 - 3/2016)
2003 Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax
Tent (5-person) White Stag (1972 - 2003)

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #8
No trouble if you modify the wall that hides the valves.
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

 

Re: Freshwater check valve and greywater plunger issues

Reply #9
So much experience and wisdom here.  Saw this post a couple of months ago.  I've been having trouble with binding valves for a while.  Siliconed the plungers and they improved.  Then poured a gallon of Walmart vegetable oil in the shower and toilet drains and they worked even better.  Just wanted to say thank you.  Been passing this home remedy around to all my buddies.     
Mark, Monique & Steven Hachigian
2004 36U295 Build No. 6239
2011 Honda CRV 4WD
2024 Dynamax Isata 5 30fw Xplorer