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ORED Toad Capacity

What do you tow with your ORED? The old beam alarm website is missing specs for a few of the late 80's models but it seems that an 89 has a GCWR of 30,000lbs and GVWR is 26,500. What I'm really trying to get at is how comfortably I can tow my 4600lb Jeep. Any concerns from ORED owners with that weight?

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I pull a two axle trailer with a race car and tools and fuel and a quad without a problem

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Same
2 car trailer with brakes . Sub 8000 should be fine.
Flat tow should be easy with brakes .

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Assume the discussion is predicated on having the Caterpillar 3208 (10.4 liter) in either 250 or 300 HP.

The ORED's with 8.2 liter 4 stroke Detroit Diesel with 210 HP-- a different beast.

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Brakes were a limiting factor on ORED air brake coaches.  The 15x4 front wedge drum brakes do not engage at less than 60 psi or so.  There is a Lq4 valve under the dash that unless heavy pedal pressure is applied stops them from working. 

Why?  Otherwise they squealed badly backing up.  Nature of that particular braking system. 

Why did Foretravel not use S cam brakes?  Because the wedge brakes had full backing plates to keep rocks from being thrown up into the brake drum area off highway.

The legal tow capacity is on the data plate next to the drivers seat. 

The cat units can tow more than the legal limits.  I had one customer tow a 8 ton boat then mention the rear drums had smoke out of the wheels in use. 

I had trucking company owners re route the brake lines under the dash to bypass the LQ4 valve to have all four brakes engage all the time.

Some changed the brake cans on the back of the backing plates to put more pressure on the shoes.

I learned to use the brakes hard enough to bypass the Lq4's engagement limit.  Got on the brakes hard then coasted versus ride them constantly.

Some other brands used bus chassis that had giant s cam drum brakes.  Problem was the timid rv drivers never got them warm enough and the shoes glazed.  Required pulling the 300 pound rear drums off and then sand the shoes.

The smaller wedge cam brakes were tender in the Rockies if you were going fast always.  Get on them hard then back off to let them kool for a bit.  Downshifting helped a little.  Some put in aftermarket exhaust brakes that were available back then.

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Good to see your still out there Bob.

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Glad to help

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So did you ever find out what the CCC of your coach is? Legal to tow weight?

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Quote from: dsd –
So did you ever find out what the CCC of your coach is? Legal to tow weight?
I don't know what I weigh yet but GVWR is 26500. Apparently some guy did it with 8 tons so I'm going with that  ;)

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Quote from: Elliott –
I don't know what I weigh yet but GVWR is 26500. Apparently some guy did it with 8 tons so I'm going with that  ;)

1 ton = 2000 lbs.

I highly doubt anyone tows 16K pounds with an '87 ORED  ;)

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Sorry Michelle but that's a short ton, a real ton is 2240 lbs. however round numbers are easier for most people hahaha

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Quote from: Olde English –
Sorry Michelle but that's a short ton, a real ton is 2240 lbs. however round numbers are easier for most people hahaha

Yes in the UK. This is all very confusing to me so I looked it up

The word "ton" originally comes from a measurement of volume called a "tun"—basically a very big wine-making cask. And you're right—this does, in fact, mean that originally a ton was a measurement of volume rather than mass! Eventually, it was determined that a tun could hold about 2000 pounds worth of wine, and the term "ton" evolved to describe this weight.

The short ton and long ton measurements diverged when this wine-making measurement was standardized. In the US and the UK, the ton was defined as 20 hundredweights (another unit of mass). But, while in the US 1 hundredweight = 100 pounds, in the UK 1 hundredweight = 8 stones. Since 1 stone = 14 pounds, the UK hundredweight = 112 pounds.

So I think you're safe assuming it could hold a Tun cask but the trailer to haul will put you overweight "Legally" What you can do is different than what you can legally plea after the impact. Its like saying you're never overweight with fuel till your on fire.
 

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US ton = 2,000 lbs. UK ton 2,240 lbs. metric ton =2,204 lbs. The scrap yards in the US use the UK ton to buy your scrap. And when the sell you scrap they use lbs. Nice mark up.