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Not charging

In my post, Trip to Saskatchewan, my alternator quit charging and thought it was sticking brushes
but further checking I found when the alternator was hot I had no exciter voltage. I have a Balmar
Voltage regulator and when the alternator gets too hot the regulator slows down or stops the alternator
from charging. I will raise the temperature a couple of degrees and will phone Balmar tomorrow.
The first morning out in the trip it probably was charging but I had other things on my mind. It was
sure nice having solar as I didn't worry about the no charging and it took 6 days before I figured out
what was wrong.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Not charging

Reply #1 –
Quote from: oldguy –
It was sure nice having solar as I didn't worry about the no charging and it took 6 days before I figured out what was wrong.
You can get along fine without a working alternator.  Just start the generator and activate the BOOST switch.  Both battery banks will be charged by the inverter/charger.  Some Forum members have driven across the country and back this way.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Not charging

Reply #2 –
Did you check your isolator?
1993 U225 Build #: 4285
500 Watts Solar
Honda CRV AWD
Former 1981 Foretravel Travco
Retired, Full Time Off Grid Snowbird

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Reply #3 –
I have a Blue Sea isolator and it closes to charge either way and for the start battery it
is hooked directly to the alternator. The Balmar regulator was doing what it is designed
to do but I am sure I can knock the temperature up a bit, I will check with Balmar
tomorrow.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Not charging

Reply #4 –
So I have been trouble shooting and and when the alternator gets to 121F the charging rate
starts to drop which shouldn't happen until it gets to 230F and when I disconnect the temperature
sensor it jumps back up to where it is supposed to be. I'm going to get a new temperature sensor
and see if that fixes the problem which Balmer suggested.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Not charging

Reply #5 –
I've got the same setup on our Roadtrek for the 2nd alternator - a Balmar regulator with a temp sensor. A suggestion would be to get an IR temp gun and compare the temp gun reading of your alternator to the Balmar temp readout.
Peter and Tammy Fleming
1991 U300 GV 40 - Sold, owned for 4 years
Downsized to Roadtrek Popular 210 class B

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Reply #6 –
I have done that Peter and they are way different so the problem is either the sensor or the
regulator and the sensor is usually the cause according to Balmar
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Not charging

Reply #7 –
You can add a resistor and change the temp signal.  Start at 1000 ohm

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Reply #8 –
My cousin asked a friend who installs Balmer regulators if he has any problem with sensors and he
said he has often seen where people but the alternator sensor leads onto the  the battery sensor
connections on the regulator which is what I did, so I screwed up. It should now work fine.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport
 

Re: Not charging

Reply #9 –
Interesting. Roadtrek had my voltage sense lead connected directly to the alternator output B+. While this worked, I ran a new sense wire all the way back to the house battery + post where the inverter is connected. This then boosted the alternator voltage to account for the voltage drop of 150 amps over 20 feet of 4/0 cable when cooking with the microwave or hibatchi grill with the engine idling. The inverter is much happier with a full 14 volts to work with.
Peter and Tammy Fleming
1991 U300 GV 40 - Sold, owned for 4 years
Downsized to Roadtrek Popular 210 class B