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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #25
ok, saying I buy four at $151 shipped, what is the going rate to have them installed?  I need to know if my RV mechanic is being reasonable.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #26
Tom,

I am sitting in FOT's parking lot and will ask Billy Jack tomorrow what they would charge.

Thinking about changing all mine as I believe they are original.. May not be needed but one of those things you do and say omg what a difference. Hopefully...
We are only strangers until we meet; however, some of us are stranger than others

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #27
Jeff & Carol,
 
You will really like the better ride, and with less money in the safe it will be faster off the line.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #28
Hi there Barry,
 
So what are the 3 Koni numbers for my coach with a tag... same (almost) as most other Foretravel coaches regardless of the year??
 
Jim
2002 U320 42'
 
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Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #29
Four
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Titusville, FL - The Great Outdoors
'98 270 buying this month
Toad is a 2018 F150 XLT

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #30
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So what are the 3 Koni numbers for my coach with a tag... same (almost) as most other Foretravel coaches regardless of the year??
Yes the same
The fronts & Rears are # 88051010
The tag are Koni part # 88051011
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #31
Jerry,

Just a caution on autopartdealer.com.  They had the best price I could find, but it took a month to get them.  They say they don't stock them, even though they say they're available on the website.  Apparently Koni is very slow shipping to them
I ordered them, I can wait a month.  Expected ship date Nov 25 Thanksgiving, doubt if they will be working that day.  Even the Bilstein shocks are about $95. 
Jerry Whiteaker former owner 96 U270  36' #4831 Austin,TX-Owner Mods LCD TV w/front cabinet rebuild - LCD TV bedroom - Dual Central AC, either can cool coach w 30 amp - Skylights at roof AC openings - Drop ceiling for ducting of AC - Shower skylight white gelcoat/wood/epoxy frame - Air Springs/Shocks replaced - 2014 CRV - 8K Home Solar - Chevy Volt

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #32
If I don't get out of Nac soon won't be any money in the safe....this "free" parking at Fot is ending up costing about $1,400 a day. 
We are only strangers until we meet; however, some of us are stranger than others

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #33
Jeff,
 
If you change your shocks yourself,  lots of penetrating oil wrench and an air wrench are almost a necessity.
 
Jim
2002 U320
 
Quote
I am sitting in FOT's parking lot and will ask Billy Jack tomorrow
what they would charge.
 
Thinking about changing all mine as I believe they are original.. May not be needed but one of those things you do and say omg what a
difference. Hopefully...
 
Jeff & Carol Savournin
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #34
You got us beat.  Mudflap, stainless steel logo and some misc stuff dinged us for around $350.00 Don't forget you get to use and the "free" laundry
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #35
I recall about 20 minutes each times 8 shocks at MOT x hourly labor charge
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1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #36
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Tom Lang's Quote: " ok, saying I buy four at $151 shipped, what is the going rate to have them installed?  I need to know if my RV mechanic is being reasonable."

Tom,
 
In May of this year I had the four front Koni FSD's installed, which required the fender skirts to be removed.  I believe the listed (by FT factory) labor per tire to remove and replace each shock was 0.5 (1/2) hours, so whatever the hourly labor rate (Keith Risch at Encore RV here in Nacogdoches did ours) is, that should give a fair estimate.  In addition to the shocks, Keith had to drop the oil pan and replace a broken oil dip stick tube.  The total cost, including 4.5 gallons of Delo 400 15W-40 was $540. I just found my invoice: 4 shocks took 2.0 hours at $90/hour. Dipstick tube replacement was 3.0 hours ($270).  The tube, oil, taxes, etc. made up the difference. I can't believe he was able to remove the skirt, the shock, install the new one, and the skirt in 30 minutes, but that's what I was charged.  Very reasonable, IMHO.
Don Hay
'92 Grandvilla, U-280
The Hayfever Express
Build #4055
'97 GEO Tracker
Life is like licking honey off a thorn.

Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #37
I purchased 4 Koni FSD Shock's (part no. 88051010) for the front of my Coach and had them installed yesterday...  In a week I'll be traveling 1400 miles from South Texas to Congress, AZ, anxious to see the difference in the ride....

Best price I could find was from LTD Autoparts, Florida. 1-888-211-1538,,,,,$164.00 each shipped. It took 7 days from the day I ordered them until UPS delivered. The Shocks were delivered direct from Koni in Hebron, KY.....

Summitt Racings best price was $193.00 each, plus a $12.95 delivery charge......

We have a local guy(Mission, TX) that does a lot of work on all of our RV's and cars/trucks etc., that insalled them for me and charged me $50.00.TOTAL............... It took him less than 1 hour to replace all 4 and he never took off a wheel......

I'm happy! :)

Mike

Re: Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #38
You have a great mechanic at a great price.  Can you share his name and phone number?
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #39
I ordered 8 from autopartsdealer.com for $151.37 each and no shipping.  Ordered on Nov 4 and they arrived today Nov 18 (2 weeks).  Haven't put them on yet, and I am sure it will take me longer than an hour for four. 

Does it seem a little strange to anyone other than me, that the front and rear shocks are the same.  The rear axle is much heavier than the front, four wheels vs. two, and more weight on the rear axle.  The front and rear brake pads and rotors are also the same size, although the rear has larger air chambers for more clamping force on the pads.  With that in mind the rear pads will probably wear out before the front pads.  At least that seems to be the case on my coach, the rear pads are showing more wear than the front. 
Jerry Whiteaker former owner 96 U270  36' #4831 Austin,TX-Owner Mods LCD TV w/front cabinet rebuild - LCD TV bedroom - Dual Central AC, either can cool coach w 30 amp - Skylights at roof AC openings - Drop ceiling for ducting of AC - Shower skylight white gelcoat/wood/epoxy frame - Air Springs/Shocks replaced - 2014 CRV - 8K Home Solar - Chevy Volt

Re: Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #40
Sure George,,,,,,It's called Angel's Auto and Truck repair and is just a couple miles from our place at Retama Village in Mission, TX. http://mpmcfall.tripod.com/id12.html   

I don't have the telephone no., Its only a couple miles away and I just drive over when I need something....  It's a small operation and probably wouldn't work for any real serious stuff, but the regular run of the mill, brakes, muffler, alternator, shocks, etc, stuff Angel is great...
He did a lot of Exhaust work on my Volvo Semi truck..

Any one in Retama Village or Bentsen Palm Village next door would be able to direst you to him....It's on Scheurbach???,St.<sp>(something like that)  Angel speaks good English.........Flat Rate,,,$50.00 per hr.....No Checks, but does take credit cards. I always pay him cash,,,,he likes that!


By the way, our place down here is for sale or rent if you would ever be interested.........Its rented Jan, Feb and Mar, this year, but Dec is open as is next year...

Mike

Re: Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #41
how did he go about adjusting them for the different weight  and bounce ??
Installed in how long !/?/!/?, for what !!
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #42
how did he go about adjusting them for the different weight  and bounce ??
Installed in how long !/?/!/?, for what !!

Bill,

FSD's are not adjustable (actually "self" adjusting), so that part of it is a non-issue.

Brett Wolfe

Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: Installed 4 new Koni FSD shocks.........Yesterday.

Reply #43
Thanks, Mike.  I have put him in my book.
George Stoltz.  Retired from full-time living in a great Foretravel and now are back to living in a traditional sticks and bricks in Florida.

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #44
Just had Koni FSD Shocks replaced at FOT.. Eight shocks and labor total just under $1500.00.  $32.00 labor per shock and $155.00 per shock. (approx).  WHAT a difference...think the originals were still on...140K miles ago...

Add that darn Texas sales tax to get a true number...

Just FYI
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #45
Bret,
'splain "self adjusting" please
1993 U300, 6v92
build 4366
USAF retired, Flight Engineer, C124, C130
 ATP, A & E.  & ex AI

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #46
You will love them. I replaced mine the second trip out and wow is all I can say. I 20 became much nicer to drive.
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
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Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
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Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #47
John,,,Did you replace just the FRONT or did you do all of them?

Mike

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #48
Bill,

Most shocks are a compromise.  If stiff enough to handle the large bumps, they are over-stiff on the small ones.  If they ride soft enough over the small bumps, they allow porpoising over the large ones.

The FSD's don't have to make that  choice of "should we be soft enough for the little bumps OR firm enough for the large ones" because they have an extra set of valves in the shock that says it can be BOTH softer over the small bumps AND/AS WELL AS firmer over the large ones.

So, FSD's do give  a softer ride over the small bumps AND better control over the large ones.

Brett Wolfe
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Koni FSD shocks

Reply #49
I noticed the old shocks I took off (Orange)  had good resistance when I pulled up, but when I pushed them back down there was hardly no resistance at all........................The New "FSD's" had a lot of resistance both going up and down...  Which I think will help on mine a lot!!

It seemed when I hit a bump the front end would go up,,,,,then come down quick, with very little shock resistance....  I'll find out soon if these  correct that......

I didn't really see any type of "adjustment" on the old ones.....I kept them, I'll have to go take another look.

Mike