Used coach prices

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Re: Used coach prices

Reply #25 – March 21, 2013, 08:36:06 pm

To quote Jim Freytag: "I think late 92 is when they came out with the 102. I know my 93 was the wide body and had the 6 speed transmission."

Rob, My '92 U-280 was built in Nov. '91 and is a wide-body (102"); the '92 U-225's and 240's were still 96" wide. However, in '92 they still put the 4 speed MT-647 Allison in the U280. As Jim said, '93 was the first year for a 6 speed in the 280's.

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Reply #26 – March 21, 2013, 09:37:11 pm

"'93 was the first year for a 6 speed in the 280's." Unfortunately, the 93 U300 still has a 4-speed.

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Reply #27 – March 21, 2013, 10:30:27 pm

I don't know if it is a grand villa or a u280. I actually don't even know the difference. I have had boats, fifth wheels and a couple of diesel trucks, so I think I can figure out if it is worth buying or not by test driving it. You guys have been a lot help and I appreciate it greatly and I will let you know all the details as soon as I find out. I would love to be a part of the FT family. You guys sound like really good people.

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Reply #28 – March 22, 2013, 05:09:49 pm

For comparison, here is a 1994 GRAND VILLA SE wide body on ebay with a bid of $24,200, reserve not met yet 40ft FORETRAVEL GRAND VILLA SE 300 HP CUMMINS DIESEL CLEAN QUALITY CLASS A in

Here is a very similiar 1994 Unihome for $40,000. Class A Motor Home.

And here is a 1987 37 foot for $17,000. Foretravel Grand Villa Diesel.

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Reply #29 – March 22, 2013, 05:21:20 pm

Quote from: PatC – March 22, 2013, 05:09:49 pm

For comparison, here is a 1994 U300 wide body on ebay. 40ft FORETRAVEL GRAND VILLA SE 300 HP CUMMINS DIESEL CLEAN QUALITY CLASS A in

I would think with a 300 hp Cummins engine this unit is a U280.

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Reply #30 – March 22, 2013, 05:25:09 pm

Quote from: Peter & Beth – March 22, 2013, 05:21:20 pm

I would think with a 300 hp Cummins engine this unit is a U280.

Your right! Did'nt notice the hp, just the 300.

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Reply #31 – March 22, 2013, 05:54:30 pm

he said it had a 6 cylinder 2 cycle detroit with allison transmission

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Reply #32 – March 22, 2013, 06:08:50 pm

Oodle popped up with a Silver Anniversary 92' U300 for $26,000 in the Pacific Northwest that purports to be in great shape. Too good to be true? Prospective buyer beware, but were I in the market, this model would be high on my list. Some details may be iffy, such as a reported 400hp Detroit, but it lists some sort of modification so may be possible? Anyway, interesting and if a scam, better ad copy than most I have seen.

Don
Edit: guess I should add the link;
92 Foretravel Diesel Pusher | 1992 Foretravel Motorhome in Portland OR |

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Reply #33 – March 22, 2013, 06:32:35 pm

Quote from: Robhatric – March 22, 2013, 05:54:30 pm

he said it had a 6 cylinder 2 cycle detroit with allison transmission

6V92 aka Silver 92.

775 ft·lbf (1,051 N·m) @ 1200 rpm; 253 horsepower governed at 2100 rpm
816 ft·lbf (1,106 N·m) @ 1200 rpm; 277 horsepower governed at 2100 rpm
957 ft·lbf (1,298 N·m) @ 1300 rpm; 300 horsepower governed at 2100 rpm
1,020 ft·lbf (1,380 N·m) @ 1300 rpm; 335 horsepower governed at 2100 rpm
depending on how it was set up.

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Reply #34 – March 22, 2013, 08:50:48 pm

The Ebay coach is a U280 SE with 6 speed plus retarder - AKA BDGVOT (best damn Grand Villa out there).

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Reply #35 – March 22, 2013, 09:00:52 pm

Any '92 or '93 U300 will have a 350hp 6V92TA. Very easy to bump the hp up to over 600 but most 6V-92s in boats had 475hp to 535hp from the manufacturer. Hard to cool one in one of our coaches with much more than 350hp without adding a front/roof radiator.

Both are 102" wide.

Pierce

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Reply #36 – March 22, 2013, 09:08:09 pm

Quote from: Robhatric – March 21, 2013, 05:48:55 pm

The one I am looking at is a 1988 102" wide. I talk to the seller, but have not seen it. He says everything works on the coach. I just want make sure everything I should be looking for whEn I go to see it.

No 102's till 1993

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Reply #37 – March 23, 2013, 08:15:13 am

According to Barry's spec sheets, the 102" wide bodies started in 92 with the 280's and above. The 225/240's were still 96".

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Reply #38 – March 23, 2013, 09:35:41 am

My 92 is a 102!

see ya
ken

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Reply #39 – March 23, 2013, 10:23:50 am

When we were researching we found that Foretravel started the wide bodies in 1992 for the U280 and U300. Other companies started at different times, so one can't just assume that because a 1988 SOB is a wide body, ALL 1998 coaches are wide bodies. I think that by the late 90's everyone had switched to wide bodies, at least for most of their production, but there may be some that held off.

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Reply #40 – March 31, 2013, 05:01:53 pm

i still have not made it up to see it, but I did get a model. It's a 1988 grand villa u320T 40" WB 102"

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Reply #41 – March 31, 2013, 05:44:06 pm

Quote from: Robhatric – March 31, 2013, 05:01:53 pm

i still have not made it up to see it, but I did get a model. It's a 1988 grand villa u320T 40" WB 102"

Check Foretravel Specifications, Floor Plans, Photos & Brochures by Year I think you will find that some terms in your description don't go together well when describing a specific Foretravel coach. Best I can tell:

1988 model year will not be U320 nor 102"
Grand Villa will not be U320

Inquisitive minds are curious regarding what you find when you can see and touch the vehicle. Take your tape measure to check length and width. Take your camera to capture the identification plates near the driver's position, the graphics, the engine, and the interior. If you have the opportunity, take an experienced FT owner with you, also.

On this forum there are lots of experts at your disposal. Your experience may add to the body of knowledge.

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Reply #42 – March 31, 2013, 06:00:13 pm

Quote from: J. D. Stevens – March 31, 2013, 05:44:06 pm

Check Foretravel Specifications, Floor Plans, Photos & Brochures by Year I think you will find that some terms in your description don't go together well when describing a specific Foretravel coach. Best I can tell:

1988 model year will not be U320 nor 102"
Grand Villa will not be U320

Nor will either 1988 nor Grand Villa be a U320T, which I'm fairly certain means a tag axle coach.

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Reply #43 – March 31, 2013, 07:42:32 pm

now you guys have me wondering. I know him, so i know he is not lying. either way I will find out this week or I will move on to something else.

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Reply #44 – March 31, 2013, 09:18:36 pm

What information I have seen sure does not add up correctly, but first hand will sure let you know what the coach is, and as previously stated the information from the vehicle id plate will let others also know what the coach is.

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Reply #45 – March 31, 2013, 10:27:42 pm

Sounds like the model year is wrong, maybe a 1998?

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Reply #46 – April 01, 2013, 09:18:06 pm

That's a good guess. I just went out and confirmed that my bransspankinnewtome '89 U280 is 8 feet wide.

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Reply #47 – April 06, 2013, 09:18:37 pm

I finally made the 2 1/2 hour drive to look at the coach. It is a 1988 U300 grand villa. With 128,000 miles third owner. I did not make an offer, because it would not drive. It started, but the transmission had an electrical warning light. He said he would get it fixed. The interior is original and was kind of worn. The wife would not go for it in the state it is in. I know a lot of you guys have done work on your coaches, how much would it cost to have someone redo the interior. Re-upholster the sofa and seats and refinish the cabinets.

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Reply #48 – April 06, 2013, 10:19:41 pm

What is wrong with the cabinets? Scratches or water damage? Old english does wonders with the walnut. Has is been sitting out? Any smell from the cabinet interiors? Interior work might be the least of your worries. What does it look like underneath?

Pierce

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Reply #49 – April 06, 2013, 10:26:30 pm

Nothing is wrong, just dated looking. The wife likes lighter colors. The coach has not been used for awhile, so it smells musky.

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