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Reply #25 – January 04, 2014, 09:18:48 am

Quote from: Gary Bouland – January 03, 2014, 08:16:12 am

Do we have here a failure to communicate ?
Brian, are you describing the red wire as what we would call a GROUND wire in the states ? Normally we think of electricity flowing from positive to negative even tho we know that it goes the other way. Maybe the Aussies have it right in describing earth as what we call positive ... I will probably hear about this post.
Gary B

No Failure to communicate, Red Is Active here as well, Black is Negative, Green is Earth, Or Ground, Battery positive is Red, Battery negative is Black, 12 Volt, Same as yours,

That Ground wire is RED, Some Clod needed an earth lead for the generator, Red was convenient, Just not safe,

My 240 volt conversion, The main plug going in to the switch had the red wire into the negative pole, No wonder it fried itself, It cooked the transformer,

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Reply #26 – January 04, 2014, 10:15:31 am

Brian, I am fascinated by the work you are doing and have done on your FT. What I would give to be able to visit you for a few weeks just to have your expertise rub off on me. Please keep all of us informed as you go along on your projects. And.. Let us know about camping and traveling in OZ, your comments are more informative than any travel writers words.

Gary B

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Reply #27 – January 04, 2014, 10:45:21 am

Quote from: Kent Speers – January 03, 2014, 12:31:47 pm

I have a 93 so my info may no be correct but I believe that your coach may not have come with an inverter. If so the battery charger and converter are the same unit. My charger/converter on my U225 was under the steps on the passenger side but only accessible through the storage bay on the drivers side behind the generator bay.

There probably should have been an Automatic Transfer Switch (ATS) under the bed. It is used to determine the source of 120V AC for the coach. When there is an outside source of electricity the ATS gives that priority. If you start the generator with outside AC on the ATS prevents any back flow to the genie.

The furnace issue may be the regulator. On my U225 the back furnace worked fine and the stove worked fine but the front furnace would not ignite. It turned out that it was the gas regulator. A $120 labor bill and a $20 regulator fixed the furnace. The other common problem is the sail switch and the electronic ignitor. There are plenty of discussion in the archives of this forum and the IRV2 forum on checking and fixing both of these parts but I would check the gas pressure with a water column at the furnace first.

Regarding the generator, Dave Metzger here on the forum is an expert. You might try to PM him for advice. If the motor is still running, my bet is that the generator can be repaired for a reasonable cost and can be made to produce 240V power.

We are curious about the amount of solar panel power you feel is adequate. It seems that most of the forum folks with solar want a minimum of 400 or 500 watts. Is the fact that your plan on using more batteries what allows you to get by with the smaller array?

The Genny is out and staying out for the time being,

Making it produce 240 volts would be ideal, By Changing wires in it,

The ATS was under the bed, But was replaced with a Transformer, Which cooked itself,

The charger is under the floor in the bay next to the Waste Tank Discharge Outlet,

I have no idea on what it does Yet, Still havent got to that yet, Is it a charger, An Invertor, or both,

The rear furnace was a leak from The centre of the gizmo in there, A piccy to come and the offending part included,

No wonder the gas detector kept going off inside the Coach, I thought the detector was dodgy, Never thought to get down and smell the floor, It was Pure Propane pouring out, Very Scary, Made sure there were no lights or sparks, any where,
And to think I was standing there smoking and listening to this Hissing sound a number of times, and the whole floor of the coach was full of propane gas, ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH, That was so Dumb, It sounded like it was coming from the A/C unit above the Bed, Not the floor,
I had no idea that it was leaking gas,

I thought it may have been a cracked pipe, Soapy Water Leak test certainly showed it up, After I took the pipes off and checked them all out for leaks and fitness, Duhhh,

Solar panels are too and for, personal requirements, 270 watts was ample for me on my boat, I will try that on my Coach, if its not enough, Its cheap enough to whack some more on at a later date,

Another 200 Watt Panel for the Coach is $209-00, I have to buy more panels for my boat any way, I dont have enough panels now for both,

So I will buy two more 200 Watt Panels and split them up between the Boat and Coach, Giving me 370 Watts on the Coach and 300 Watts on the Boat, Win Win For both,
The Holding brackets I have now will fit any combination of size of panels,

I am also single, My biggest Battery drain is my Music and the computer, Occasional TV, Its a lot less than I used on my Boat,
The boats electrics ran 24/7. I never turned them off, And all Nav lights on at night as well, VHF ran 24/7, and I used the Nuke for coffee all the time, Big deck light sucked it, so did the big spot light I used, 200 Watts, and bilge and pressure water pumps running for the shower, Water maker, It ran for hours and sucked big time power drain,

My Coach will actually be totally switched off a lot of the time, The Same solar panels are still pumping power into the batterys,
The Batterys are bigger in my Coach than my boat, Two 8 D's. But its all trial and error at the moment, Hopefully with out too much error, Hahahaha

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Reply #28 – January 04, 2014, 11:29:15 am

Quote from: Gary Bouland – January 04, 2014, 10:15:31 am

Brian, I am fascinated by the work you are doing and have done on your FT. What I would give to be able to visit you for a few weeks just to have your expertise rub off on me. Please keep all of us informed as you go along on your projects. And.. Let us know about camping and traveling in OZ, your comments are more informative than any travel writers words.

Gary B

Gary, I am only doing the work, You people are holding my hand and telling me how its done and what to do,

I am a Professional in my own right, But all this work I am doing, is all new to me, A lot of it is well and truly over my head, Electrics, Arrrhhhhgggg, But its all only 12 Volt now,

Nuke and A/C units, Mix Master, Ice Maker, Garbage Compactor, Vaccum, 110 Volts, Did I miss any thing, None of which I will use,
Is the water heater 110 volts or 12 volts,

I intend to have it done right this time, 100% Reliable, A Coach we can all be proud of,

What you tell me, And from I read in the Techie pages and just things people do to their coaches all helps me fix mine,

Barry Beams info has been incredible, The close up piccys from people and what their doing, A piccy says a million words,
Especially with a line or arrow drawn on it,

CB, That was surprising, I thought it was stolen, Put my glasses on and had a good look at the hand piece,
WOW, Its all in the hand piece, I have never seen one like that,

Ours is on the face of the Box screwed to the roof, There is only on off on the hand piece,

Doesnt Matter, It dont work here, same as the TV, They are on different wave lengths to us, Shame, it looks like a very good unit,

24 inch 12 volt colour TV with DVD player included Combo, is $179-99, Plugs into the ciggy lighter, Why bother with 240 Volt, 12 volt is cheaper any way,,

I wish I was more of a puter geek, I could post up video's of the Bus driving thru the countryside, It takes too long to upload,
You would love that, Hahahaha Wrong side of the road for a starter, Hahahaha,
You dont know how glad I am that I didnt buy that 40 footer I had my eye on, It just wouldnt get around the corners here, Or be a very tite squeeze, That takes the pleasure out of driving, Not Fun,

Just be wary of my lingo, Its all humorous, but it some times falls flat on its face, Hahahaha and it gets taken the wrong way, Just remember, its the funny way, is the way its meant to be, from me,

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Reply #29 – January 04, 2014, 11:45:41 am

Brian, you are a breath of fresh Aussie air and it would be nice if we could put a face to your postings. So, why not have someone take a piccy of you then we will know who we are "talking" to in these posts?
Take care there,
John H

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Reply #30 – January 04, 2014, 12:33:56 pm

Found a big fuse missing from the fuse block, It feeds that big red wire to the water pump and Solonoid or relay, Loitering Under the couch,
The water pump works with a direct hook up to power, I will check to see if the Relay thingy now has power or not, From the missing fuse,
That fuse block has given me two free live 12 volt cables to plug in my accessorys too, It has a nice big fuse as well,
Two ciggy lighter outlets dead centre of the Dash, Nice and handy, GPS and Maps, laptop on the floor,

The sound system is grouse, Love it, Vibrates the whole Coach, Hahahahaha, Bass, Good stuff, 50's Rock and Roll,

The wiring is getting easier to understand,
Every thing 110 volts can run off an invertor from the batterys, Excluding the two A/C units,
They will need a straight out transformer and a land line connection, Separate and apart from every thing else,

Every thing else is 12 Volt,
Separate the two systems entirely, They dont need to be automatic, or integrated, There is no 240 volt, or generator or Landlline,

This is my boat the Solar panels came off, Boats and Coaches from the USA, Because they are cheaper than OZ,

Electrics from China, also because they are cheaper than here, 4000 % mark up is not to be sneezed at, especially when its the same gear, from the same Chinese factory, and in the same box,

My 1800 Watt Xantrex, was going to cost $2000-00 to replace, Its made in China by the way,

I bought a pure sine wave, 5000 Watt, 10000 Watt surge, with all the bells and whistles in it, twin fans, thermal overloads, cutouts, Auto restarts, And a Partridge in a pear tree, and twelve steak knives, Hahahahaha
Its a Burger with the lot,
For $500-00 delivered, to my Villa, from China,
Does it work, Well, A 500 watt drill and a five inch grinder being leaned on, Hard, at the same time, Yep, It pours power out,
Didnt stop or slow down either of them, and I was trying, Hahahahaha, That was off one fully charged car battery only,

China has four billion of their own customers in China, One billion of them are more up market than we are,

The Chinese Govt is very serious these days about their Crappy Products giving them a bad name over seas, If its really cheap from China, Its probably Crap,
Google the factory your buying from, Have a look inside the factory, Their technology is first class and improving fast,

And its cheap,

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Reply #31 – January 04, 2014, 01:18:47 pm

A piccy or two of yours truly, Hahahahahahahaha, Bit of an adreniline Junky, The Need for speed is still strong,

The bottom piccy is how I like to camp, The river is just behind the tent and it flows around to the right side, Middle of the piccy at the back two rivers join, The one on the near side is freezing cold all year round, the one on the other side is warm to swim in,
I can just get the Coach in there with a bit of a squeeze, hahahaha I have checked it out, Its beside my favorite Bike road, 63 Kays of very tite twistsys, Hahahaha, and fishing there too, Trout, Blackfish, Look like crap, but excellent eating, Tastes better than the trout, Redfin,
The road in is very squeezy for the Coach, But if a B Double gets in there, My Coach will,

I like to camp in out of the way spots with no people, Its so relaxing, But I still cant just go some where and just prop,
I need to be doing some thing, Its just not me to stand or sit still, Some thing to do with the ants in my pants, Hahahaha

Dont forget, You did ask for them Hahahahaha

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Reply #32 – January 04, 2014, 01:44:32 pm

I was one of those who used a piece of red wire when I ran out of black of the right size. I didn't leave it however for someone else to figure out. When out in the boonies you have to do what you have to in order to keep going.

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Reply #33 – January 04, 2014, 02:05:53 pm

Quote from: ARdave – January 04, 2014, 01:44:32 pm

I was one of those who used a piece of red wire when I ran out of black of the right size. I didn't leave it however for someone else to figure out. When out in the boonies you have to do what you have to in order to keep going.

Out in the Boonies, Anything goes, What ever is needed at the time, Farmer Jones's wire fence has got me home a few times, But things like that, you fix and replace when you get home, You dont leave it,

Normally, Red is the only colour you dont use any where else, but Active or Positive, Any where else, use any colour you like, as long as it works,
But Red is always the one that bites, Its always kept separate for a very good reason, It will Kill you, The others wont.

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Reply #34 – January 04, 2014, 04:22:38 pm

Brian, Looking at you setting behind the wheel of the FT it Occurs to me that the steering wheel is kinda far from you. Maybe you like it like that.. Do you have the wheel adjusted out as close to you as it goes ?? Do you know that the wheel is adjustable ? Turn the center too the left, pull wheel towards you, lock by turning wheel to the right. Maybe it is just the angle the picture was taken from that I see this.

Gary B

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Reply #35 – January 04, 2014, 05:44:35 pm

Quote from: Gary Bouland – January 04, 2014, 04:22:38 pm

Brian, Looking at you setting behind the wheel of the FT it Occurs to me that the steering wheel is kinda far from you. Maybe you like it like that.. Do you have the wheel adjusted out as close to you as it goes ?? Do you know that the wheel is adjustable ? Turn the center too the left, pull wheel towards you, lock by turning wheel to the right. Maybe it is just the angle the picture was taken from that I see this.

Gary B

I might have been a bit Tense there, It was my first real drive of it, Great Ocean Road and the Ottways,
Very skinny roads in a very big unfamiliar Coach,

Coming down steep twisting mountain roads, Visions of cooked brakes and no Stoppies,

But now Thats pretty much how I like to drive it, But I lay the seat back further,

I like just having my finger tips on the edge of the wheel,

Squashing it down and forwards makes it easier to get into the Dash also,

Its a Great Idea,

It really needs a foot rest for the other foot when driving long distances,

One foot up, One foot down, Could give your Sciatica in the Bum, Long term,

See. That was another one I would not have known about, Who turns the big knob on the steering wheel,

I certainly dont,

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Reply #36 – January 04, 2014, 07:09:03 pm

Brian, A Friend of mine built me a foot rest for my left foot. It is a wedge built of plywood with carpet covering that fits right up against the firewall and gives me a place to rest my left foot.
Its about 5 inches high tapering to zero and is about 6 inches wide.
Gary B

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Reply #37 – January 04, 2014, 07:33:40 pm

Brian, thanks for the piccys, now we know who we are talking too.
Looks like life is pretty good to you over there, maybe we should drop by for a lookie
John H

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Reply #38 – January 05, 2014, 11:02:08 am

Quote from: MR B2 – January 04, 2014, 12:33:56 pm

Every thing 110 volts can run off an invertor from the batterys, Excluding the two A/C units,
They will need a straight out transformer and a land line connection, Separate and apart from every thing else,

Every thing else is 12 Volt,
Separate the two systems entirely, They dont need to be automatic, or integrated, There is no 240 volt, or generator or Landlline,

Brian,
FWIW (For What Its Worth) When the PO installed the inverter on my 44' trawler he ran a separate set of AC wires to separate wall receptacles (quad boxes with one side inverted power - other side shore/gen power).
Simpler and safer than pushing AC through a transfer switch. I always knew where my power was coming from.

Keep up the good work!!

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Reply #39 – January 05, 2014, 11:23:59 am

So Brian, you look like I had guessed you would look. I am surprised. Thanks for the Piccys.

The Piccy of you on bike looks like a CBR1100 Blackbird, a bike on my past want list, a real screamer. They are very hard to find in the States now are they still sold in Oz?

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Reply #40 – January 05, 2014, 07:02:03 pm

Quote from: Kent Speers – January 05, 2014, 11:23:59 am

So Brian, you look like I had guessed you would look. I am surprised. Thanks for the Piccys.

The Piccy of you on bike looks like a CBR1100 Blackbird, a bike on my past want list, a real screamer. They are very hard to find in the States now are they still sold in Oz?

CBR 1100 XX Honda Super Blackbird, Pure Unadulterated Missile, Hahahahaha I Bought it for my 60th Birthday, Done 70,000 kays on it since in 4 1/2 years,

I even rode it through a Snow Blizzard, Thats not Fun, same day I chucked it down the road,

I just chucked it down the road, They wrote it off, Scratched Fairings, Its a write off, Nothing wrong with the bike, I rode it for 3000 Kays after I dropped it, Nothing wrong with it, They stiill came and carted it off, They can keep it now, You dont touch nothing after its been to the salvage yard,

3 grand for new OEM Fairings, $400-00 AUD for Chinese Fairings, Its cheaper than the insurance costs.

They are a dime a dozen here, Getting very cheap, Good for me buying another one,

03 was the last they sent to the USA, Try cbrxx.com, International Blackbird site, They have American Birds listed for sale,
You can get them in the USA with less than 10,000 miles on them, They buy them and keep them in the garage, Unridden,?

?? For years, Very Strange,

But I do know people that have bought a Bird, Scared the hell out of them, Literally, And sold them again, They do go, and very very quickly, Standing start to Flat Chat, is 13 seconds, Its also 300 KPH, or 186 MPH,

I can be Fined, Arrested, Jailed, have the bike Confiscated and Crushed, and still be in first gear, And there is six of them, Hahahahaha,

Google, CBRXX on the Autobahn, Give you a thrill, Hahahahaha.

My new one will be The Pretty Blue one, Colour and Bling is the only difference in the years, and cost, The cheapest one I will buy,, I have over 100 of them to choose from, Hahahahahaha, Good for me,

65 year old Hoon, Im staying 12, Only old people get old, Hahahahaha, You dont use it, You lose it,

Cheers,
Brian,

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Reply #41 – January 07, 2014, 11:42:12 pm

Water, Water, Water, Yeeeaaahhh, I have running water, Everywhere its supposed to be, And no dripping taps,

My set up is like yours Kent, Thanks, Traced the wire back to the dash, The fuse block, Fuse missing, Put that in, I have power under the couch,
Wired the Water pump direct from the fuse, Disconnected the Relay or whatever that little electrical gizmo is, all the wires run to it,
Its auto, so I can leave it that way, Now the water heater, Where is it, I might put that on a separate switch as well,

Flushing Dunny with running water, WOW, Thats a surprise,, The boat had a Macerator and pumped straight over the side, You pulled the lever back and forwards and watched it all happen, Pumping it all out, Then you closed the lid when it was all gone,
It also had a tank for Marina's. Over the side was only at sea, It came out the side like brown confetti,

The picture of me standing on the pier next to my boat, I was waiting for the wire transfer payment to come through,
I am not allowed on it till he has the full payment, Like, he already has the ten grand in his hand as deposit,

This is the gas leak from the furnace in the bedroom, The Diaphram has gone in it, So it just pours gas out of that little hole on the edge of the screw,
The little screw go's into the centre of the hole in the unit,
Its very dangerous, We were looking for this hissing sound, on a few occasions, The gas detector kept going off, I disconnected it, Thinking it was faulty,
I just didnt get down near the floor to smell it, Its all disconnected now, Leaking Propane, OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH,

Does, any one know the company who sells these parts, I will buy them direct, F/T is a bit on the heavy side for pricing,
Even tho it will be the correct part every time, And their service has been impeccable for me so far,
They do have to go out of their way to send me bits, Which I do appreciate,

I have my 8 stack CD player installed and working, I have Music I dont have to change every twenty minutes,

All the Genny 12 volt side is still dead, There are a lot of wires in the coach, that dont do any thing, They are just there,

Installed a Ciggy lighter smack in the middle of the Dash, It can feed both sides of the coach, Laptop, GPS, Phone charger, Etc Etc, Two both seats,
I also put a hole in for a Ciggy lighter, Down the bottom of the dash next to the left edge, Too low wasnt it,

Dippy Brian has made a mistake, Its just a bit too low and the Ciggy lighter wont go in straight, Its hitting the floor of the dash inside, Damnit, I will think about that one, I might be able to put a nice looking switch in it instead,
BOY, Think Positive, Hahahaha
Also rearranging the wires in the dash to give me better access chasing wires, Its Spagetti in there,

Its slow, But it is happening, Keep your Beady Little Peepers on this space, Hahahaha, More to come,

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Reply #42 – January 08, 2014, 08:03:03 pm

That is the gas valve for a hydroflame furnace. You should be able to find a gas valve for the model number of the furnace on the internet. I had one until about a year ago, but sold the complete furnace.

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Reply #43 – January 09, 2014, 04:06:04 am

For the benefit of all,
That Big Red Wire that was the Earth or Ground wire, In the Genny locker,

Its not a one off, Hahahahahaha, White to red, black to red, And every other colour as well to Red,

I was working on Red and white carrying the power, Black as Earth, Hahahahahahahaha, Forget those rules,
Find a wire and trace it back, Its the only way in this mess, Hahahahaha

Red wire came off that Relay under the Couch, Started as red, went to black, then to white and then to green and then dissapeared into the wood work under the left chair,

Its only one wire, Why all the joins,

Bored, and wanted coloured wiring, Hahahahaha, It is under the couch,

The power lead from the battery goes to a black plastic block, Small power leads run off to power other things from the ingoing terminal,
The other terminal goes to the Invertor, But no power goes thru the cable from this Black round block,
If I bypass the block, I have power to the invertor

Can I leave that round block out of the system permanently, I have no idea on what it is or does,

Then it will be one continous wire to the Invertor from the battery terminal, I might get the 110 side going again, Then the Micro wave and Mixmaster will work,

Not having 240 volts, Totally unnessesary, As it will all be 12 volts as things 110 volts finally give up the ghost,

The more I delve into this Coach, The more I like it,

I think this is the first time it has had real maintenance done to it in 25 years,

Could some one please fill in the gaps on my solar panels for me, I want all the panels to be connected to one wire going thru the roof,
Its all 12 volt, And what is the best way to wire it for full function, Shade is not really a Factor,

Thank you,

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Reply #44 – January 09, 2014, 10:52:26 am

Brian

I put a Junction box (waterproof) on the roof of My coach. Ran each panel to the junction box, then a single wire down the refrigerator vent.

Roland

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Reply #45 – January 09, 2014, 12:19:07 pm

Yes Roland is correct. Get a 6x6 waterproof electrical box and fasten into it 2 wire connection terminals (one pos and one neg) and run all panels into it. Then connect a 6 ga wire to terminals and run it down fridge vent.
In fact here is a link to a well known Solar co in US and they have some designs here that will work.
AM Solar's Support Pages System Wiring Overviews
Hope it helps
John h

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Reply #46 – January 11, 2014, 07:19:11 pm

Discovery time,
That purple wire in the fridge thats just hanging there, Is actually the power lead from the ignition, Turn the key on and its live,
But where does it go to, I have looked and there is no where I can see that it will connect too, or where it came from on the fridge electrical panel,
And I am going to paint the inside of the bays, Today, Light grey, Why light grey, Because I have heaps of it sitting in tins, Its inside the bays and underneath the coach, So its not seen, But will make them look clean,

I really do appreciate all the help I am receiving from you all,

And its entertaining, Hahahaha,

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Reply #47 – January 11, 2014, 07:33:32 pm

I now have the piccys for my solar set up, Thanks John for the links,

Its all ready to be installed, Even the bolt lengths are the correct length now, 40 mm max inside the roof frames,

I forget who put it up, The sky light hole with the tape measure on it, Works wonders for me, Hahahaha Makes it so Eeeeeessssy,

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Reply #48 – January 11, 2014, 07:41:58 pm

Brian,

Early coaches-- possibly yours when build had refrigerators that DID have an ignition wire to cycle them off when the engine was turned off (like when refueling).

Most later refrigerators do not have or need the ignition wire. They only use a hot (+) and ground (-). No worries.

Run the hot from battery so that it does not loose power when the salesman switch by the door is turned off. That way you can use the salesman switch to turn on/off lights, but this will have no effect on the refrigerator operation.

Brett

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Reply #49 – January 11, 2014, 10:21:36 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – January 11, 2014, 07:41:58 pm

Brian,

Early coaches-- possibly yours when build had refrigerators that DID have an ignition wire to cycle them off when the engine was turned off (like when refueling).

Most later refrigerators do not have or need the ignition wire. They only use a hot (+) and ground (-). No worries.

Run the hot from battery so that it does not loose power when the salesman switch by the door is turned off. That way you can use the salesman switch to turn on/off lights, but this will have no effect on the refrigerator operation.

Brett

This one does exactly that, I read it in the manual, As in refueling,

It Cycles off for 20 minutes after a Gas Bottle refill or refueling, Or it wont start for twenty minutes after filling to allow any leaking gas to escape, and No Flame while Filling,
Thats a great idea,

It also has a timer in there some where, that stops the fridge from working when the gas bottle is changed, and 20 minutes there after,

This might be my problem, I will turn it all on again and see what happens after a few hours,

I dont see why they would leave that live ignition wire just dangling there, Bare wire on the end, Or its been checked with the ignition off, Its dead then,

Lights on the fridge work, It clicks the igniteor, I have put a regulator on the hose from the tank,
I didnt like the way the hose expanded in size, Acetylene Hose, It was too much pressure from the tank,

I just Removed the 110 volt side of it completely, Only where it attaches, It automatically senses no 110 volts and it switches to gas,
This is all over my head, I am not good on the electrical side of things, But I am getting there,

This is the whole Gizmo for you to peruse at your leisure, As I dont have a clue on it,

I would like a switch on it so I can turn it on and off independant of any thing else, Then I know its off,

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