Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #25 – October 27, 2014, 12:51:34 pm +1 on that, might put some force on the belly of the coach, but raising to max height should take care of that Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #26 – October 28, 2014, 12:44:54 am Pulling from front: Open generator door find the two oblong frame members, push a chain through them with hook on rear edge of frame member. Remove anything that can be damaged by chain. Extend chain way out in front of coach and attach winch cable and pull very slowly.Also as before let dry and ramp hole. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #27 – October 28, 2014, 11:19:05 am Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – October 26, 2014, 12:05:10 pmA load of 3/4" minus w/fines crushed mine rock will fill the bill. About $250 for one truck load, $400 plus for a transfer load. The sharp edges lock together nicely and are concrete like after being driven over for a while. Pierce, Thanks for the great advice! I spoke with a contractor yesterday. He suggested digging it down about 6" and filling with 3" rock. He said that the larger rock would be more stable and would still have enough fines to fill in. What do you think about the larger size? He quoted me $500 to dig the dirt and fill with the crushed rock for 12' x 40'. Another $125 to remove the dirt. I got to thinking of how much dirt that is and decided to let him haul it off. He did point out that if I wanted to lay concrete later, it would probably only need 4" and rebar over the crushed rock. Is 40' enough for a 40' RV? There IS substantial overhang in the front and back from the wheels. Or would it be better to make it longer? Thank you for the idea. I would appreciate any additional thoughts you might have about his proposal. Trent Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #28 – October 28, 2014, 11:46:44 am If it was mine I would make it 14 X 50 that give you plenty of room to walk around on a solid surface, and get into your bays and engine. Also then you use a radder to have a hard surface to support it. Base on what you were quoted the additional shouldn't be but about $300. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #29 – October 28, 2014, 01:16:58 pm Trent, That's a great price. He's right about the larger rock though if doing it by the book it would be capped with the mtl. Pierce was refering to. That combo makes a road bed with a high rating. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #30 – October 28, 2014, 06:56:42 pm I concur with using crushed limestone for the base, and with making it larger. If it were mine I would make it 15 x 50.I would go with "304 limestone" (1-1/2" down to fines) and then top that with "411 limestone" (3/4" down to fines). I suggest at least 4" thickness on each layer. The 304 will make a great base and the 411 will be easy to walk on. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #31 – October 29, 2014, 08:37:58 am I put in a 14' by 45' asphalt pad for our 36'er summer before last.Temporary Parking for RVMy initial feeling is that 40' is a little short.YMMV Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #32 – October 29, 2014, 11:34:25 am Tulsa,Love the prices! They would charge that much just to look at it here in California. Jimmy is right. I would extend the "pad" so you can work at either end without standing in mud in winter. Nice to have some on the sides so when you get in and out and open comparment doors, you don't track mud/dirt in and can set tools down on the gravel.Yes, the larger rocks are excellent. The Romans went down 12 feet on their roads graduating the size as they went from bottom to top. This will last forever and if built just above the surrounding ground, will drain nicely too. Ribar with the tiny square concrete squares to hold it up an inch or so is all you would need to pour a slab (plus 2x6s). I waited almost a month to drive our on the pad with the U300. 6" of 5 sack will be plenty strong. I laid our 817 feet of concrete driveway in 2001 with just the help of some guys standing around in the Safeway parking lot. Only 3-1/2 inches thick but has worked really well. Did use a few miles of ribar though. My hands will never be the same from tying it all together. Has endured several large transit mixers for the slab/pit at the top without cracking. 8 yards each trip.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #33 – October 29, 2014, 04:23:10 pm Did not cheap out, did the 6" thick min. with a 40' X 60' nice concrete pad, then had a commercial bldg fitted to it. Now a great hobby shop / garage. It only hurt once $$$$$$, not everyday like a gravel pad. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #34 – October 30, 2014, 02:28:21 am Quote from: Chuck Pearson – October 25, 2014, 07:08:04 pmThat'll probably work but the easiest way is if you have coach net. They'll give you a short tow back to pavement. Chuck, Thanks for the suggestion. I tried digging out in front of the wheels, but they were too deep. There was not enough room under the coach to get the shovel in. After a couple of hours trying to use a garden scoop, I gave up. I do not have Coach Net, but I do have the roadside assistance that came with my Progressive RV policy. Called them up and within an hour, I had a humongous wrecker in front of the house. He had a hard time hooking up because of the limited access by the buried wheels. I think he hooked up around the axle and under the steps out the front. he moved his pulling point low to the ground and pulled until we got out of the holes. He repositioned the chains and his truck to make a straight path to my driveway. Probably took him less than 30 minutes. Something about watching an expert making a job look so easy; a thing of beauty! I did not even have to sign anything. (I did notice that the text message came from the same number I used a couple of years ago, with USAA roadside assistance, to tow my automobile when the oil pump quit.) The contractor will be here in the morning to dig a 12'x50' hole, 6"-8" deep. He will fill the bottom half with up to 3" crushed rock, and the top half with 3/4" minus with fines. According to him the combination should make a nice RV pad. When it is all said and done: Tow RV out of deep ruts in the back yard = free. Build a 12'x50' crushed rock RV pad = $725. Never getting stuck in the yard again = priceless! Thank y'all for the encouragement and advice, Trent Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #35 – October 30, 2014, 07:06:36 am glad you got out without damage. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #36 – October 30, 2014, 10:23:24 am I figure you got pulled out and a pad put in for about the cost of a tank of fuel. Good going! Sounds like your rock contractor has it together with his plan. I love affordable solutions!I watched an older couple get talked into having a company do all their paths and driveway with round rock about 1 to 1-1/2". None of it stayed put while driving on it and it's tiring just to walk on. All because it looked pretty. Good advice above about not spinning your wheels. If the wheels get traction and the rear end starts hopping, there are only so many hops before an axle snaps. I have heard the distinctive "ping" when it breaks twice. I was not the driver.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #37 – October 30, 2014, 02:31:01 pm Please rethink the 12' width. I believe over time you will wish you had at least one more foot of solid material on each side of the coach. I don't think you will be sorry if you make it 15' wide. It's really nice to have extra solid width when using a ladder or accessing the basement storage bays. Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #38 – October 30, 2014, 11:19:04 pm Quote from: D.J. Osborn – October 30, 2014, 02:31:01 pmPlease rethink the 12' width. I believe over time you will wish you had at least one more foot of solid material on each side of the coach. I don't think you will be sorry if you make it 15' wide. Okay, okay! The final dimensions are 15.5'x46', which abuts my existing concrete patio and sidewalk. It wound up taking a whole transfer truck load of crushed rock to replace four truck loads of dirt. Trent Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #39 – October 30, 2014, 11:25:43 pm Glad your high and dry. Thankfully no damage other than the wallet.Raymond Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #40 – October 31, 2014, 12:07:04 am Any problem fixable by money only is not that bad Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #41 – October 31, 2014, 10:46:01 am Trent,A transfer load is $500 alone here in our twin cities (very small twin cities). No tractor work, no removing dirt, etc. You got a real deal. Post photos if you get a chance.Too bad we can't electronically transfer all your old dirt here. Sure could use it. Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Foretravel Stuck in Owasso Reply #42 – October 31, 2014, 12:42:21 pm Caflash Bob, that's just what my dad always told me. I think he was right. Quote Selected
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