H rated vs G rated tires

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Re: H rated vs G rated tires

Reply #25 – March 16, 2015, 05:36:26 pm

Personally, if H's were not available from Michelin, I would look at another brand, particularly on a 40' U320 for full timing.

Have you contacted Redlands Truck and RV. I know they were loading up a full truckload of Michelins to take to the FMCA Convention is Pomona. Mike is the service manager there. (888) 249-0124.

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Reply #26 – March 16, 2015, 07:01:53 pm

I had Michelin XZE load range H installed a year ago. I inquired about XZA3, but the dealer said they install more XZE on motorhomes. I don't know which tire is better, but I'm happy with the XZE. Mark

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Reply #27 – March 16, 2015, 10:58:09 pm

Quote from: olddigger – March 16, 2015, 12:29:49 pm

The first three locations we called had a total of 5 LRHs. Fortunately I just found a store that has at least 6 LRHs.

In case you haven't tried them, TCI is one of the larger big truck tire dealers in our area of Texas and have stores in many states. They are Michelin dealers and generally have large warehouses to pull inventory from. Might be worth a call http://www.tirecenters.com/store_loc/store_locater.cfm?myword=all

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Reply #28 – March 17, 2015, 10:54:13 am

What does FT put on these coaches new from the factory..G or H?

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Reply #29 – March 17, 2015, 11:09:21 am

If your 34' U270 is like mine, the G rated tires were OEM.

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Reply #30 – March 17, 2015, 11:33:14 am

Quote from: Peter & Beth – March 17, 2015, 11:09:21 am

If your 34' U270 is like mine, the G rated tires were OEM.

But, a 34' U270 is a far cry weight wise from the OP's 40' 320.

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Reply #31 – March 17, 2015, 12:14:31 pm

From Barry's site...

1997
U270 36'
GVWR 30,000
GAWRF 12,000
GAWRR 19,000
GCWR 36,000

U295 36' and 40'
GVWR 30,000
GAWRF 12,000
GAWRR 19,000
GCWR 36,000

U320 36' and 40'
GVWR 32,000
GAWRF 12,000
GAWRR 20,000
GCWR 38,000

Note the 6,000 lb towing capacity.

A 34' will be lighter off the line and there is less room for stuff. I think tires should be selected to meet vehicle and axle weight ratings. Your actual wt my be lower. But like most of us the longer we own our coach the more stuff (toys, tools, etc) we carry around. Just my opinion. Roger

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Reply #32 – March 17, 2015, 12:34:15 pm

We had our 1999 40ft U320 (no tag) weighed in at Livingston SKP.

The key takeaway is the rear kitchen side duals typically support more weight than the other side duals.

We then did what we could to adjust our storage to better even out the loads.

If you're in Nac, SKP is close enuf to get yours weighed. Make an appointment.

Its an RV Park, too. But I do wish they'd drop the phrase, "Rainbow's End"

)

I really don't have to be reminded of that final outcome we all share ;o)

best, paul

(quote of entire post deleted. Please remember to clip your quotes - Michelle)

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Reply #33 – March 17, 2015, 05:26:45 pm

Maybe a little off topic but any thoughts on the Continental HSL 2 LRH 275/80 R 22.5
verses the Michelins? TCI here in Lakeside Ca. has a very good price on them.
Pros/ cons?

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Reply #34 – March 17, 2015, 05:57:48 pm

Not too far off topic. Maybe a different one.

If Michelins are in short supply then what else?

Continentals?
BF Goodrich?
Hankook?
Toyo?
Something else?

Why buy something else?

I have no complaints about the BF Goodrich tires that were on my coach when we bought it except they are LRG.

Roger

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Reply #35 – March 17, 2015, 06:08:51 pm

Quote from: rbark – March 17, 2015, 05:26:45 pm

Maybe a little off topic but any thoughts on the Continental HSL 2 LRH 275/80 R 22.5
verses the Michelins? TCI here in Lakeside Ca. has a very good price on them.
Pros/ cons?

I have no problem with that tire.

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Reply #36 – March 17, 2015, 06:19:15 pm

When I was shopping for tires last year I checked out some of the tire company's charts and found that even though they were the same size and all load range H, the michelins could carry more weight than some others. Not a big difference, but it could matter to some. Mark

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Reply #37 – March 17, 2015, 06:49:38 pm

Continental HSL 2: 275/80R22.5* H load Single 7160 @ 120. Load dual 6610 @ 120

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Reply #38 – March 17, 2015, 06:56:34 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – March 17, 2015, 06:49:38 pm

Continental HSL 2: 275/80R22.5* H load Single 7160 @ 120. Load dual 6610 @ 120

Identical numbers to Michelin XZA3+ and XZE in that size and load range

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Reply #39 – March 17, 2015, 08:12:43 pm

I ran Continental HSL H range on my U280 and was quite happy with them.
Gary B

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Reply #40 – March 17, 2015, 08:45:08 pm

The michelin man on the phone today mentioned that the xze had thicker sidewalls and resisted curb abrasion and because of the reinforced side walls they turned slightly better.

Versus my old Xza-1's the xza-3's smart tires were 8% less fuel cost per mile.

The michelins were two pounds heavier than the continentals and specifically designed to lessen the carcass heating issues on line haul vehicles.

He said from them the xza-3+ were all evertreads and the trucker boys were getting 200-300k miles on them in steer locations.

All tires drive different. Switched tires multiple times to get the best drive on a particular model.

Foretravel built the original unihomes around the original pxza+ pilot tires.

Cm mentioned at the unihome intro meeting that they built and adjusted the suspension around the exact tires like the euros do.

Changing tire tech can and has altered steering and handling and turning and ride quality countless times for me in my Rv manager days.

Some are un noticeable. Some are but the drivers did not notice. Or thought the difference was "normal"

Michelin man said most asked their buddies " what pressure do you run" or run full sidewall max lead pressure. Wrong.

So any comparison needs to state at what load and pressure versus the sidwall ratings.

I took very new or used coach to a scale then adjusted the pressure everytime.

Repeatable results

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Reply #41 – March 17, 2015, 09:23:44 pm

Had Michelin, and Continental 275 80R 22.5 LRH, now Othsu 295's can't tell much real difference in any of them.

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Reply #42 – March 21, 2015, 09:58:29 am

Can anyone comment on which tire of any brand, weight rated for the coach, will track the best ie. straightest? I have wondered about the wisdom of putting steer tires on the rear.

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Reply #43 – March 21, 2015, 12:39:13 pm

In my quest for new Dual (rear) tires I have been checking out a few brands as well as the Toyos that I like M154 and do notice that the Continentals that have been mentioned HSL are steer type, the HDL are for drive position. So, I will be reading any comments to Chuck's question on the difference anyone may have found. I also would find it hard for any of us to know the difference when put on a coach due to the weight and good handling of our coach's anyway. Would any of the makers really be honest to us on how much better or worse their tires are against others, I doubt it!
JohnH

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Reply #44 – March 21, 2015, 01:19:19 pm

I am not sure what the difference between steer and drive tires are. Probably drive tires have to transfer torque to the road in the plane of the tire and steer tires get more side loads as they deal with steering forces. Is there any reason not to put steers in the front and drives in the rear since that is what they were designed for?

I don't think wear is ever going to be an issue. It is handling and minimizing the risk of a blowout.

Roger

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Reply #45 – March 21, 2015, 04:03:19 pm

Roger, I used Continental HSL LRH steers front and rear on my U280 and had no problems.
I SUSPECT that the only difference Will be a more aggressive tread pattern on the drive version and they will probably be noisier on a MH.
Gary B

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Reply #46 – March 21, 2015, 04:06:24 pm

On a motorhome, you will ABSOLUTELY want steer tires on all wheels.

Off road traction/aggressive snow traction is not something you are looking for (I don't think).

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Reply #47 – March 21, 2015, 04:43:07 pm

Bret, makes me feel better about my decision to put the HSL LRH all the way around.

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Reply #48 – March 21, 2015, 05:02:29 pm

Richard,
How was the price on the Continentals Vs. the Michelins?
Don

Quote from: rbark – March 21, 2015, 04:43:07 pm

Bret, makes me feel better about my decision to put the HSL LRH all the way around.

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Reply #49 – March 21, 2015, 11:03:44 pm

The Toyo's I am thinking of using on rear M154 can be steer as well.
JohnH

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