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Re: What would you do?

Reply #25
You have a Great Coach, just like the foundation of a house something solid to build on. We have a 1994 U300 and would not trade it for anything on the market today. (Because there is nothing like the G.V.'s) To my knowledge all Foretravels of that vintage had problems with the Dash, Visor, and Seat vinyl. Just had ours redone, I did the dash myself and took the two Flexsteel seats to a local upholstery shop. ($750.00) for two seats.  You will not find a better coach to remodel and it was Your Dads'. Lots of good information on this site, and if you can't find it just ask.  Good Luck ^.^d   
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CHARLOTTE HARBOR, FL
1994 Grand Villa - # 4466
U300 Unihome - 6V92 Detroit
4 speed Allison - Jake Brake

Re: What would you do?

Reply #26
Quote from: Karl Shurtleff  -  A day ago 

3. When the water pump is turned on, water leaks out from below from where I assume the tank is located


depending on where the water is coming from- my U280 has the drain valve for the water on the drivers side behind the water tank. You can pump the water reservior empty with the pump if the valve is open.  Might be worth a check.
Dan 1989 U280 40'

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Reply #27
When I bought mine, it had been sitting for a while.  The gaskets in the shureflow pump itself were the source of the leak.  I replaced the pump, problem solved.
Current coach 1996 U320 40'
Previous coach, 1990 36' U280

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Reply #28
You couldn't be in a much better position to tackle a big project like this.  The '93-'94 U280 was one of the best coaches ever built by Foretravel (totally unbiased opinion).  You are starting out with a cash basis of ZERO, so no matter how far you go or where you stop in the restoration process you will most certainly be able to recoup your expenses.  If you decide to go the professional route, everything you need done can be done close by in Nacogdoches (FOT, MOT, Xtreme Paint and Graphics, Infinity Custom Interiors, Berndt Ramspeck).  Or, you could turn it into a (expensive and time-consuming) HOBBY, and do some of the stuff yourself.  You are relatively young, so you can afford to take your time with the project.  I guarantee you will learn something, and make interesting new friends, as you gradually get that fine old coach whipped into shape.

Deal with the basic running gear first, and get it SAFELY back on the road - tires, brakes, suspension, lights, wipers, and air horns (horns are high priority item, because they are so much FUN).  Then prioritize all the other stuff, and tackle one thing at a time.  That way it won't be so totally overwhelming, and you can spread out the expense.  Almost ANY problem you might encounter along the way has likely been dealt with by one or more Forum members, so you will have lots of help available.  All you have to do is ask!

Good luck with the project!  Take (and post) many photos - we LIKE photos!
Thanks for that perspective! I never looked at it as a zero cost basis! I know that I can, and will do some things by myself...but really don't want to drag it out too long. The ECU shipped out yesterday and it should be movable  this weekend. After a good cleaning I will be able to see what I can live with and what is an emergencyl
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #29
When I bought mine, it had been sitting for a while.  The gaskets in the shureflow pump itself were the source of the leak.  I replaced the pump, problem solved.
The water is dripping from the angled panel above the electrical cord storage area...above and too the left of the faucet. that panel is caulked in place. Where is that pump located?
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #30
My pump is on the passenger's side in a compartment.  I don't have the same FT.  I think you may have a broken pipe (from freeze?).  It may be an easy fix.  Probably will have to remove the panel to access. FWIW, my pump is easy to find.  I think yours should not be too difficult.  When it is pumping you can hear it too.  Best of travels!
Best of Travels

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Reply #31
Karl,

As you get into this project, you will probably have lots of questions.  It will help if you get into the habit of taking photos, and posting them along with your question.  Then the Forum members will know exactly what you are talking about, AND have a better idea how to help.  For instance, you have a water leak.  Because you mention the electric cord storage and the faucet, it sounds to me like the leak is coming from somewhere in the utility bay, on the driver (street) side of the coach.  If you could snap a photo of the area, and then explain where you see the leak, we would have a much better idea of the possible sources.

On our '93 GV, the water pump is located on the passenger (curb) side of the coach, directly below the water heater.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #32
Yes get it up and running then drive it down to Mexico ( I gether Laredo is close to you but get past there by a couple hundred KMs and let them do all the replacing of materials etc as it will be a LOT cheaper there than even you doing it)
These coach's are pretty simple to work on and any fix's are very reasonable. I have done 3 now so if you need some ideas give me a pm or just ask away on this forum
JohnH

The Mexico thing scares me! The interior of Mexico is probably ok, but the border towns are pretty dangerous. Would not want to lose it to banditos.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #33
Karl,

As you get into this project, you will probably have lots of questions.  It will help if you get into the habit of taking photos, and posting them along with your question.  Then the Forum members will know exactly what you are talking about, AND have a better idea how to help.  For instance, you have a water leak.  Because you mention the electric cord storage and the faucet, it sounds to me like the leak is coming from somewhere in the utility bay, on the driver (street) side of the coach.  If you could snap a photo of the area, and then explain where you see the leak, we would have a much better idea of the possible sources.

On our '93 GV, the water pump is located on the passenger (curb) side of the coach, directly below the water heater.

Good point! ECU shipped yesterday so hopefully I can get it out this weekend clean it up and get some pictures. With it stuck in storage  the bay doors will not open completely and it makes it hard to get good pictures an I have limited room to work. I will get the panel off and see where that leads...Pics to follow..
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #34
You are already ahead with the 6 speed. Put on a PRXB exh brake (your engine should have already had the upgraded exh valve springs). If you really want some power add a Banks kit. The rest is busy work. I loved my 93 U280 with a rare pecan interior.
Thanks!
It has the Pacbrake C10300 installed... I like the Banks idea
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #35
Your refrigerator is acting just like mine did before catching fire. The cooling unit is clogged and will overheat and then leak hydrogen gas and ammonia, both flammable. Don't try running it any further. You should be able to replace the cooling unit yourself with a rebuilt one. I'm told the Amish ones are very good, and reasonably priced.

And also from a safety standpoint, replacing the tires needs to be done right away. Get a mobile truck tire service to come out or just drive a few miles very slowly to get it done.

Thanks for the heads up...I will look into the Amish replacements...It will stay off for now!
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #36
While the Amish unit is feasible, why not look into a new Atwood Helium refrigerator? They almost eliminate the fire and health dangers of ammonia and hydrogen gas as well as having the "new" refrigerator look. Our older Foretravels don't have the fire protection in the fridge compartment and are a tinderbox of thin luan wood. Check the Atwood videos on YouTube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxpeYuCZgRo  Nice to be able to park while not quite level and not having to turn off the fridge.

A new 8 cubic model is about $1000 plus black or wood grained panels and is available from PPL at: Helium Refrigerator for RVs - by Atwood - PPL Motor Homes

This will require a little work on the bottom of the enclosure as both Norcold and Atwood refrigerators have a flat bottom. There will be some wood rot by the exterior access door and even if you don't line the compartment like I did, the wiring needs to be cleaned up.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #37
While the Amish unit is feasible, why not look into a new Atwood Helium refrigerator?

Neal Pillsbury's review here Absorption Refrigerator Options in a U270 and initial discussion further up in that topic Absorption Refrigerator Options in a U270
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #38
Everyone is sharing their favorite refrigerator design, so our is to consider a home electric model like many have installed.  No gas, no fire, no defrost.

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Reply #39
I just purchased a 94' from here on the boards. The interior is orginial and in great shape so I'm surprised to hear yours is so deteriorated. Shows what good maintenance will do I suppose.

Let me know how the TV swap out goes, I'm interested in what brackets, wiring, etc it will take to get it done cleanly. Also not familiar with the auto satellite deal

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Reply #40
454Rocket,

So, what coach do you have and what equipment -- that will give us a better idea of what satellite/ TV mods may work for you.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: What would you do?

Reply #41
Karl. that is why I said go a few hundred KMs into Mexico. There is no problem with you taking it down there believe me and next FT I buy and if it needs upholstry I will be down there in seconds (well a couple days drive from here in Canada). They do great work at a fraction of US and Canada rates.
This last trip I had a mechanic I have used for years replace the CV joint rubber boots on both sides of my Tracker. I had a price from the mechanic here before we left and he said $6-700.00. The guy in Bucerias did both sides for $50.00 (I supplied parts) and they are done right as well. I have seen many rvs after having work done down there and it is as good as anywere.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: What would you do?

Reply #42
I just purchased a 94' from here on the boards. The interior is orginial and in great shape so I'm surprised to hear yours is so deteriorated. Shows what good maintenance will do I suppose.

Let me know how the TV swap out goes, I'm interested in what brackets, wiring, etc it will take to get it done cleanly. Also not familiar with the auto satellite deal
It was stored in a terrible inside storage and has not been touched in the last 13 years...it is obvious that the inside has had condensation which caused a lot of the issues...so yes good maintenance is important.
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #43
I got my ECU and remote back today. Sent it off on Saturday ..rebuilt and returned on Thursday. Transmission Instruments in Flower Mound, TX! Great service!! Repair..Tax..Shipping $762.96 2 year warranty....Let the games begin!
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #44
Well there ya have it Karl. My 320 is 26 years old. The way these things were built back in the day in my opinion hasn't been equaled since. I didn't hear anyone say don't fix up the old girl. I agree that the first priority should be make it safe and road worthy. Then go somewhere for a few days and the things that matter to you most will make themselves obvious. Tires (without a doubt) fluids, and get the fridge looked at by a pro or just replace it. (I'd bet it could be fixed). I have the original dometic with a new core. Works like a champ. I would join coachnet if I were you also. Kind of a AAA for RV's.
Your Dad was smart and bought the best. He'd be happy to see the old girl being enjoyed.
Good luck!
Andy 1989 U300 40'

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Reply #45
ECU and remote installed....finally got it out of storage and got it home...long day cleaning but it was well worth the effort. Thanks to everyone for your ideas and support. Looks brand new!
Karl Shurtleff
Kingwood, TX
94 U280 Grand Villa 36'
Build #4487

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Reply #46
Wow, Karl, that is looking great!  I'm sure enjoying following your progress.
1996 U295 36' WTBI

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Reply #47
Karl,

What was used to clean it so good?
 
Thanks,
 
Trent
Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

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Reply #48
Remarkable transformation!  Mother's Mag & Aluminum polish and a Powerball Mini will restore the shine to those Ramco mirrors.  Good Job!
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #49
My last cleaning event I used the Home Depot outdoor bleach product and a pump sprayer. Did a great job.
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