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Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #25 –
Wow!
I think my Kwikee brain box may be bad. 
My steps are always extended when the ignition is OFF.
Igintion ON and the magnetic switch on the door activates the steps, both retracting and extending them.

If I just put in a new brain then I will have steps that are the opposite of what I have now, activated by the
door at all times.............every time the door opens or closes the steps extend or retract.

Is that the way y'all's work??

I'm going to call Kwikee back now and talk with a tech-rep on how to determine if the brain box is shot.  I
spoke to one earlier that didn't have the best interaction skills but maybe I'll get better help this time.

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #26 –
T man, that is the way mine work. Ign off step down, turn key on and up they go. I of course do have the overide that will keep them up even with ign off.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #27 –
Hi T-man,

It sounds like you have cross connected some wires to the brain box because it is working opposite of normal.
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #28 –
Quote from: Jim Frerichs –
Hi T-man,

It sounds like you have cross connected some wires to the brain box because it is working opposite of normal.

The wiring is OEM Jim, and it's been working this way since I got the coach. All I did was add the two power switch wires. 
The RED wire is getting power, the brown door switch wire is correct or the switch wouldn't work and the yellow wire is providing power to the box when the ignition is turned on.  That leaves only the white wire which never continued beyond the 4-way plug originally, but is now wired to the switch.  The other leg of the switch goes to 12VDC.

I wish it was as simple a a crossed wire.

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #29 –
If I remember correctly it is the door magnetic switch that is controlled by the relay, which when the ignition is on is closed, but when the ignition is off is open so had to supply power to the relay, in install a diode in the ignition side of the relay power source to prevent the add dash switch from back feeding the ignition circuit. You can call me at 8one 3 2 one 5 3463 I doubt that the brain box is bad but only that the brain is not seeing the closed magnetic switch circuit. I think I could explain it better on the phone than by trying to have you understand my bad writing skills. Mine works as it should, it took me a while to figure it out and I was a rv tech for over 30 years, but the extra that Foretravel added in didn't make sense, so don't think that Kwikee Lippert will be of much help
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #30 –
Thanks Red,

I'll give you a call tomorrow.

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #31 –
Oh T-man,

I am not really familiar with the wiring of the Kwikee brain box nor its operation. Sorry, it just seemed like you might have had wires reversed because of its reverse operation.

You probably should go to a dealer.
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #32 –
First time posting on this forum. As lead moderator of LifeWithALazyDazeRV, I am studying ForeForums website layout because we are contemplating leaving Yahoo Groups and evolving to a FF-type website. While navigating through the forum, I discovered this thread about Kwikee steps. Recently, the Kwikee electric step (one step model with under-step light) on my '02 Lazy Daze began to work only intermittently and finally stopped working (in an open position, of course) on a recent trip. As we were one day from home (Denver), the step began operating. I have appreciated reading various speculations about what could cause this and also the posted electrical diagrams which will help me diagnose the problem when I crawl underneath to take a looksee. Part of me says if it ain't broke, don't fix it; however it's likely something is wrong. I'm hoping it's only a loose connection somewhere.

Chris

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #33 –
I will attempt to send a picture of the drawing of the wiring.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #34 –
I forgot to label the diode so here goes again.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #35 –
Ron,

Thank you for the drawings and all your help on the phone today.

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #36 –
I disconnected the harness to keep the steps out while working on coach, now I can't seem to get them to retract. Is there a reboot sequence? If I understand correctly any time ignition is on they retract.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #37 –
The door also has to be shut as there is a switch by the door that tells the step when to close.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #38 –
Service manual attached.

Several failed tries.

T-man see email
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #39 –
Did you blow the 10a fuse?
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #40 –
The red wire has constant 12 volts and the yellow wire is powered by the ignition, and also on some coaches there is a step switch by the door that needs to be turned on and if I remember correctly, that is a white wire.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: Help With Kwikee Step Switch To Keep Steps In

Reply #41 –
I replaced my steps and the new controller doesn't allow for the entry door to be open with the steps retracted as per the modification
referred to in this thread.................so I installed the old controller and they're working again.

While researching the new controller I found this information, "Must replace door switch if you currently have a white switch - New control unit only compatible with Black Door Switch."  I don't know which magnetic switch is normally closed/open, but apparently
that's the fix.

Kwikee Replacement Control Unit -New Style- 9510 909510000 379146