Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #20 – August 12, 2016, 12:23:16 pm Quote from: Jerryetc – August 12, 2016, 11:22:59 amI wondered why Bridgestones were not mentioned in any of the replies. They were the most reasonably priced when I replaced my steering tires. No problems in 3 years. A good tire, I had them on my Jags. I think a lot of the tire deal is "user loyality", you find a good dealer that offers warranty all over and you tend to stick with them. My grandfather drove Studebakers all his life, traded them in every two years, think they took care of him? Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #21 – August 12, 2016, 01:04:35 pm All the tires mentioned are good, Bridgestone are the best in my opinion. Most TA truck stops also handle for replacement.Bill Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #23 – August 13, 2016, 03:28:57 pm Quote from: fredsmotorhome – August 12, 2016, 01:04:35 pm Bridgestone are the best in my opinion. I missed the whole ad on t.v., but it appeared Firestone is now the rep for Bridgestone. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #24 – August 13, 2016, 03:38:22 pm Yes, Bridgestone acquired Firestone in 1988: Bridgestone Americas History Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #25 – August 13, 2016, 09:05:19 pm Replaced the original Michelins on our 96 U295 36' with Goodyears. No problem. Replaced Goodyears with Toyo's. No problems. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #26 – August 14, 2016, 03:21:50 am Quote from: Steve & Ginny Hill – August 13, 2016, 09:05:19 pmReplaced the original Michelins on our 96 U295 36' with Goodyears. No problem. Replaced Goodyears with Toyo's. No problems.Did you notice any ride, noise or handling differences? Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #27 – August 14, 2016, 09:38:01 am Quote from: cuure – August 13, 2016, 03:19:23 pmWhat about Uniroyals?Same trucker friend that praised Toyo claimed personal experience with Uniroyal on semi was deplorable. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #28 – August 14, 2016, 10:29:19 am Tom, That is interesting as my truck tire dealer has over 60 Uniroyal sets out there with no problems. My set is doing just fine, quiet, smooth and straight down the road. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #29 – August 14, 2016, 01:19:27 pm Quote from: Rudy – August 14, 2016, 10:29:19 amTom, That is interesting as my truck tire dealer has over 60 Uniroyal sets out there with no problems. My set is doing just fine, quiet, smooth and straight down the road.Again he's running a 90's model peterbilt hauling gravel . His Uniroyal issues were exclusively steer axles . His disappointment was compounded by so many other truckers having assured him of how well they would perform. Different front ends different loads ,roads and driving habits no doubt make everyone's experience unique. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #30 – August 14, 2016, 06:08:46 pm Tom,That is a bummer. My dealer's number one trucking client is gravel haulers. Go figure. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #31 – August 14, 2016, 06:58:09 pm Well I am going to try a set of Uniroyal steering tires. Will report back with results. After all they are a subdivision of Michelin. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #32 – August 17, 2016, 05:13:16 pm Had Michelins on coach; new when I bought it in 2000.... In 2010 had an inner rear blow out while sitting; also noticed that all the rest had Dry Rot.... And very little tread wear; HATED leaving tires with all that tread behind!!!!Anyhow, went to toyo's as that was what the tire guy had without a wait to get them ordered (and the price difference sealed that deal)Have since heard a couple of times that a 10 year life on Michelins' is about it. YMMV...... Of course....Last service of tires found a great tire crew in TPA. He recommends Bridgestones, too...ps: this was. 1k miles AFTER the bulkhead fix, and yes, he shaved the tires and saved them rather than replacing them!!) Reid Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #33 – August 19, 2016, 06:59:13 am I replace my Michelins at 10 years from manufacture, but you'll find few others here that run tires that long. No one I know ever wears out tread. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #34 – August 19, 2016, 11:00:47 am I tried to get 10 years out of my Michelins but lost one at 8 years in a left front blow out (steering) that resulted in $6000 damage. The deductible and the hassle of getting it fixed was not worth the savings of trying to milk five more years out of my sets going forward.It is great if you don't have a problem, but I did. I used to sell Michelin truck tires back in the 70's and 80's and figured if Michelin said you could go 10 years with annual inspections that was good enough for me. The tires must not have liked sitting 6 months in FL, when it blew, all the steel inside the tire was rusted, an that is why it failed (on a 60 degree AM, inflated properly and just 5 miles after leaving the campground, so inflation and heat were not factors). I have no idea even if you did "annual inspections" per Michelin how you would know the steel belts deep inside the tire and not visible without specialized equipment were rusted to the point of failure. These tires sat on sandy dirt in FL, since then I have made sure my tires are on concrete or plywood. Rusting from the inside is also why so people advocate pure nitrogen to fill tires, but I did not go that far.When we store wood boats, they do it in buildings with gravel floors, not concrete. The concrete floors tend to dry out the wood boats, the gravel not at all. Moral, try not to park on dirt or gravel, as perhaps that will add to the formation of rust inside the tire. No science on that, just trying to give more reason as to why my tire failed due to rusted steel in the casing at 8 years.Many run longer with success. As Brett W. would say, getting away with something that amy cause problems for others does not mean you have a best practice. It means you got away with something that could hurt your equipment. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #35 – August 19, 2016, 12:06:35 pm Using dry whatever to fill the tires is a necessary safety requirement in my mind.Coach air is dry. Had my D2 valve readjusted this week to be from 115 to 130 in its range like it was 20k miles ago.That way I can air up our tires from the dry air in the coach. Plus the brakes works better Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #36 – August 19, 2016, 02:19:03 pm Has anyone mixed brands/load ranges-H's for steer, G's for drive. Our front axle weighs in at 12,680 which is 300 over the chassis tag. I attribute the extra weight to a 12K generator upgrade. To be safe we went with Goodyear 275-80H's all around. That was almost six years ago. As like everyone else we do not get close to wearing them out. I'm considering the Uniroyals or Toyo's for the drive. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #37 – August 19, 2016, 03:01:17 pm Bob,No problem running different tires front to rear. As long as all tires on an axle are the same, you are fine. Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #38 – August 20, 2016, 08:51:36 am Thanks Brett!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Selected
Re: Toyo vs Michelin Reply #39 – August 20, 2016, 09:45:32 am I can't speak to running different makes front/rear on the FT, I have no real experience there. I have done it twice in the past, once on an old GMC with tandems on the rear, once on a Sprinter based class B. Neither turned out to be a good experience. Both times it was Toyo on the rear, Michlein on the front. The different sidewall stiffness made the handling erratic, and REALLY accented rut wander, wind, and truck passing effects. My experience only, it may be different on the FT. Quote Selected