Toyo vs Michelin

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Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #25 – August 13, 2016, 09:05:19 pm

Replaced the original Michelins on our 96 U295 36' with Goodyears. No problem. Replaced Goodyears with Toyo's. No problems.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #26 – August 14, 2016, 03:21:50 am

Quote from: Steve & Ginny Hill – August 13, 2016, 09:05:19 pm

Replaced the original Michelins on our 96 U295 36' with Goodyears. No problem. Replaced Goodyears with Toyo's. No problems.

Did you notice any ride, noise or handling differences?

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #27 – August 14, 2016, 09:38:01 am

Quote from: cuure – August 13, 2016, 03:19:23 pm

What about Uniroyals?

Same trucker friend that praised Toyo claimed personal experience with Uniroyal on semi was deplorable.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #28 – August 14, 2016, 10:29:19 am

Tom, That is interesting as my truck tire dealer has over 60 Uniroyal sets out there with no problems. My set is doing just fine, quiet, smooth and straight down the road.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #29 – August 14, 2016, 01:19:27 pm

Quote from: Rudy – August 14, 2016, 10:29:19 am

Tom, That is interesting as my truck tire dealer has over 60 Uniroyal sets out there with no problems. My set is doing just fine, quiet, smooth and straight down the road.

Again he's running a 90's model peterbilt hauling gravel . His Uniroyal issues were exclusively steer axles . His disappointment was compounded by so many other truckers having assured him of how well they would perform.
Different front ends different loads ,roads and driving habits no doubt make everyone's experience unique.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #30 – August 14, 2016, 06:08:46 pm

Tom,

That is a bummer. My dealer's number one trucking client is gravel haulers. Go figure.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #31 – August 14, 2016, 06:58:09 pm

Well I am going to try a set of Uniroyal steering tires. Will report back with results. After all they are a subdivision of Michelin.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #32 – August 17, 2016, 05:13:16 pm

Had Michelins on coach; new when I bought it in 2000.... In 2010 had an inner rear blow out while sitting; also noticed that all the rest had Dry Rot.... And very little tread wear; HATED leaving tires with all that tread behind!!!!

Anyhow, went to toyo's as that was what the tire guy had without a wait to get them ordered (and the price difference sealed that deal)
Have since heard a couple of times that a 10 year life on Michelins' is about it. YMMV...... Of course....

Last service of tires found a great tire crew in TPA. He recommends Bridgestones, too...ps: this was. 1k miles AFTER the bulkhead fix, and yes, he shaved the tires and saved them rather than replacing them!!)

Reid

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #33 – August 19, 2016, 06:59:13 am

I replace my Michelins at 10 years from manufacture, but you'll find few others here that run tires that long. No one I know ever wears out tread.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #34 – August 19, 2016, 11:00:47 am

I tried to get 10 years out of my Michelins but lost one at 8 years in a left front blow out (steering) that resulted in $6000 damage. The deductible and the hassle of getting it fixed was not worth the savings of trying to milk five more years out of my sets going forward.

It is great if you don't have a problem, but I did. I used to sell Michelin truck tires back in the 70's and 80's and figured if Michelin said you could go 10 years with annual inspections that was good enough for me. The tires must not have liked sitting 6 months in FL, when it blew, all the steel inside the tire was rusted, an that is why it failed (on a 60 degree AM, inflated properly and just 5 miles after leaving the campground, so inflation and heat were not factors). I have no idea even if you did "annual inspections" per Michelin how you would know the steel belts deep inside the tire and not visible without specialized equipment were rusted to the point of failure. These tires sat on sandy dirt in FL, since then I have made sure my tires are on concrete or plywood. Rusting from the inside is also why so people advocate pure nitrogen to fill tires, but I did not go that far.

When we store wood boats, they do it in buildings with gravel floors, not concrete. The concrete floors tend to dry out the wood boats, the gravel not at all. Moral, try not to park on dirt or gravel, as perhaps that will add to the formation of rust inside the tire. No science on that, just trying to give more reason as to why my tire failed due to rusted steel in the casing at 8 years.

Many run longer with success. As Brett W. would say, getting away with something that amy cause problems for others does not mean you have a best practice. It means you got away with something that could hurt your equipment.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #35 – August 19, 2016, 12:06:35 pm

Using dry whatever to fill the tires is a necessary safety requirement in my mind.

Coach air is dry. Had my D2 valve readjusted this week to be from 115 to 130 in its range like it was 20k miles ago.

That way I can air up our tires from the dry air in the coach.

Plus the brakes works better

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #36 – August 19, 2016, 02:19:03 pm

Has anyone mixed brands/load ranges-H's for steer, G's for drive. Our front axle weighs in at 12,680 which is 300 over the chassis tag. I attribute the extra weight to a 12K generator upgrade. To be safe we went with Goodyear 275-80H's all around. That was almost six years ago. As like everyone else we do not get close to wearing them out. I'm considering the Uniroyals or Toyo's for the drive.

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Reply #37 – August 19, 2016, 03:01:17 pm

Bob,

No problem running different tires front to rear. As long as all tires on an axle are the same, you are fine.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #38 – August 20, 2016, 08:51:36 am

Thanks Brett!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #39 – August 20, 2016, 09:45:32 am

I can't speak to running different makes front/rear on the FT, I have no real experience there. I have done it twice in the past, once on an old GMC with tandems on the rear, once on a Sprinter based class B. Neither turned out to be a good experience. Both times it was Toyo on the rear, Michlein on the front. The different sidewall stiffness made the handling erratic, and REALLY accented rut wander, wind, and truck passing effects. My experience only, it may be different on the FT.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #40 – August 20, 2016, 01:23:16 pm

I always put high end load range H on the front of my crane and cheaper load range G's on the rear. Never any problems. 18,000 lb. front 38,000 lb. rears.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #41 – March 25, 2017, 09:58:42 pm

Does anyone have any updates on the Toyo tires? The coach I am looking at has 12 year old Michelins. The shop near the coach is out of Michelin tires and has Toyo's at a pretty good price.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #42 – March 25, 2017, 10:03:45 pm

Use search function on Forum with "Toyo" as search argument. Lots of threads in archives.
Sold Toyos, good customer feedback.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #43 – March 25, 2017, 10:09:50 pm

Have Toyo M154 on coach since June,good so far.

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Reply #44 – March 25, 2017, 10:55:00 pm

7 year old Michelin had some sidewall cracking. My dad (81) was going to replace them when he got back to San Benito from Nac.
He had a right front blowout at 65MPH just north of Raymondville, TX today. He said,"It pulled to the right a little bit, but I had both hands on the wheel at the time". Just goes to show how well an 18 year old FT handles under extreme conditions. Not so well for SOB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LkLeljt4t0&sns=em

Trying to post pics of the tire but not working so well on my tablet. 😡

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #45 – March 25, 2017, 11:26:49 pm

I have them, very happy.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #46 – March 26, 2017, 12:00:24 am

Six year old Toyo's no problem with ride or wear will replace with same when the time comes.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #47 – March 26, 2017, 12:01:43 am

What brand is the best? - Commercial Business - Modern Tire Dealer
7 years old but an indicator. I have been running Goodyear 399's 20% cheaper than Michelin.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #48 – March 26, 2017, 12:19:11 am

Interesting article. My tire dealer rated Michelins and Bridgestone the same way. One of the motivating factors for me in choosing Michelins was availability. If you need a tire can you get the one you want? Which tire is going to make you feel most secure?

This is a very subjective choice. If you are changing tires at six or (shiver) seven years and keeping newer tires up front then there probably isn't much difference. We are doing about 10-12K miles a year. A couple hundred bucks a year over six years was not an overriding considerations.

Re: Toyo vs Michelin

Reply #49 – March 26, 2017, 12:26:35 am

Quote from: Roger & Susan in Home2 – March 26, 2017, 12:19:11 am

Interesting article. My tire dealer rated Michelins and Bridgestone the same way. One of the motivating factors for me in choosing Michelins was availability. If you need a tire can you get the one you want? Which tire is going to make you feel most secure?

This is a very subjective choice. If you are changing tires at six or (shiver) seven years and keeping newer tires up front then there probably isn't much difference. We are doing about 10-12K miles a year. A couple hundred bucks a year over six years was not an overriding considerations.

Agree with you there, front tire blowout not too good, but a back dual or tag is mostly inconvenient. Keep 5 yrs or less on the front but rear tires 5 to 8 years.

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