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Reply #40 –
Cm and boney Moore and don shipe all drove personal unihomes and switched tires on  coaches  to test them..

Hated cm's as Marie like green.  Gag.

Customers asked why their demos did not have the std tires.

Testing. 

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Reply #41 –
I run Michelin in the front and Toyos in the back. The fronts cost as much as the 4 in back.

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Reply #42 –
I just put Toyo M154's on the front in November.  I have not seen any evidence that Michelin tires are superior and worth spending hundreds more on.

Having the same tires on the front as the rear is as important as having matching Kleenex boxes  inside the coach. :)

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Reply #43 –
Quote from: Dave Larsen –
I just put Toyo M154's on the front in November.  I have not seen any evidence that Michelin tires are superior and worth spending hundreds more on.

Having the same tires on the front as the rear is as important as having matching Kleenex boxes  inside the coach. :)

As long as the coach is weighed on all four corners, so as to know tire pressures, you would do fine with any tire, for a while.

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Reply #44 –
We went from LRG BF Goodrich to LRH Michelins last summer.  Better ride, better in the wind, better noise, better feeling safe.  No idea if any other tires would have done the same.  There were almost the most expensive by about four tanks of fuel over six years compared to the cheapest tires. I am rotating them so that the steers are never more than three years old. We are doing what makes us happy as my friend Dave M often told me. I think he knew what he was talking about.  Bless his heart.

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Reply #45 –
I would take a look at Hankooks. I personally after having a sidewall blow out on brand new factory Firestone tires would not even put them on a wagon. I'm running Samson's right now and will look at them and Hankooks when the time comes.

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Reply #46 –
This thread reminds me of the age old debate............
Which is better Ford or Chevy?
We all have our preferences, along with our good and bad experiences.
Do what makes you happy, because if you don't and you have a bad experience, you will just beat yourself up over it.
Personally ...... I like rounds ones...... :D

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Reply #48 –

Personally ...... I like rounds ones...... :D
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Round, black and suitable construction for the Intended purpose. All racing sports cars balance the available traction on each end. Doesn't matter what tire supplier except for the fact that you don't get any sponsor money unless they match. Depending on the venue Left compound might not match right, or even 4 different compounds. Back to the coach aspect the front's don't need to match the backs as the tires have no clue whose tire or even what diameter, traction coefficient, or pressure within reason. If your to point that you have to worry about understeer or oversteer change your driving habits. Soft compounds may be a safer as our tires tend to "age out" before they wear out and may save your bacon. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Reply #49 –
FMCA now offers Continentals as well as Michelin.

Does not matter if rear tires are different from fronts.  Put same tires on front and make sure that they are rated for the weight.  On dual sets match tires on each side so that they are the same diameter otherwise the larger tire will be bearing more weight.  There are a lot of factors affecting the loaded and rolling radius of tires but making sure they are of the same height is good enough for our purposes.

I think Michelin are over priced especially for RV use.  So long as you say within the tires speed rating - most large tires are rated for 75 mph - you will be OK.  Main thing is keep to the required pressures.

Keith

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Reply #50 –
Quote from: FourTravelers –
This thread reminds me of the age old debate............
Which is better Ford or Chevy?
We all have our preferences, along with our good and bad experiences.
Do what makes you happy, because if you don't and you have a bad experience, you will just beat yourself up over it.
Personally ...... I like rounds ones...... :D

I was like that when I owned a small trucking company. I always bought Michelin's (at a premium) because of their reputation. What I found was that they lasted no longer nor gave me any quantifiable benefit that justified their high cost. No matter the tire brand I used, I was always smoking through steer tires every 60-70K because of the fact that Fed-Ex NEVER aligned their single axle "pup" trailers. Which meant that it put forces on the chassis that HAD to be countered through physics with the steering. I started using general tires and never had construction issues with them and I saved money. If I remember correctly, Generals are associated with Continental. As is Bridgestone & Firestone. I usually got 300,000 to 400,000 miles from the 8 drive axle tires.

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Reply #51 –
Maybe in other parts of the country, as well, but in Oregon and Washington, they leave the scales open. You then know the load rating needed, as well as the psi required. A lot of outlets cannot balance the large tires correctly, nor do they know what a torque wrench is. Our Michelin 255.XRV/80R/22.5s were rated for our scale weights. They replaced the valve stems with aluminum,new dual seal caps, and wheel studs where needed. We had the front end aligned, as well. We run these in the low eighties, on all six.
It tracks and rides so well, compared to previous coaches we had!  ^.^d

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Reply #52 –
Lets walk this dog one more time. Well looks like it may be time to change out my tires as they are mfg. date of 2011.  They are Michelin and seem to be in very good shape with no unusual wear or weathering.  I would like a few opinions on whether to change steer tires, drive tires or all tires from your experiences. 

John

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Reply #53 –
You might want to do a search on the Forum. You will likely find all your answers there plus a whole bunch of opinions.

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Reply #54 –
What exact model? The latest tires ride better, turn better, go straight better and are quieter, and get noticeably better mileage

No cracking and if only used dry air or dry nitrogen so no internal rusting the choice is yours.

More value to six year old barely used tires I would think.  No cracking so they would pass yard inspection for a trucking co

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Reply #55 –
Back to basics: was the coach weighed at install & psi adjusted? Has the psi been monitored over the years? Front end aligned? Use of U.V. and rubber protector? These all count. Maybe some do, I used to, but no longer rotate tires. Michelin has a handy chart for checking sidewall age.  ^.^d 

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Reply #56 –
We change all tires at same time, at about 6 or 7 years DOT age, always with Michelin.  Used to go for XZA3+, but now they have been replaced with a new model.  We also always go for LoadRange H as we feel we cannot have too much capacity and the price difference between LR-G and LR-H is reasonable.  We carry 100 psi all around with no big concern if tires get down to low 90 psi due to time, altitude or temperature.  We eventually pump them back up to 100 psi.  To simplify, we use regular air, not nitrogen, usually filling with our own compressor.  Angled inner dual stem out at tire change time.  Dynamic spin balance front & sometimes rear too, never powder, granules or golf balls for balancing.  One dealer offered us $150 for each tire if less than 5 years DOT age.

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Reply #57 –
I've run Michelins for years. I like the tires, dealerships and their attention to detail. A thought just came up, someone know if there is any difference between "spin balance" and "force balance". Ours were "force balanced" by the PO at the big firm in Phoenix, sure rides well!  ^.^d

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Reply #59 –
Looks like I am going to replace steering tires for now as DW will never let it rest if I don't or anything happens.....Cheap closure on this issue for now.  She said' "I am not going on a 3 week trip on the old ones".

What Michelin tires are we buying these days.

John