Air Filter Element Pricing

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Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #75 – February 11, 2018, 06:56:05 pm

Don,

Did you ever order the Donaldson DBA5029 air filter? Did it have the gaskets on both ends, and the air minder small hole?

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Quote from: Don & Tys (AKA acousticart) – March 20, 2017, 10:25:31 am

That is my assessment... The Donaldson - DBA5029 has the correct air flow direction, has the right dimensions but lacks the small end gasket and the filter minder hole. As far as filtering the air goes, my judgement is that it fulfills the requirements provided the cover compresses the big end gasket enough to seal properly without the additional foam gasket on the small end which is there to provide a seal to the filter minder port. With no hole there, the filterminder fitting would not be on the vacuum side of the air flow. I had ordered the DBA 5029 before Barry's reply quoting a Donaldson tech. I haven't put it in yet, but I will assess the fit and whether or not to add the small end gasket for extra compression. As to the filterminder hole, I could use an appropriately sized punch with a length of 3" ABS pipe as an anvil to add one, but as I don't think my filterminder is working properly anyway, I won't bother. I will however look at adding a filter minder fitting elsewhere on the low pressure side of the turbo so that (assuming the DBA 5029 passes my fitment assessment) so that I can have that functionality after I get a new filterminder.
I will post about it when I get around to doing it, but of course anybody considering doing likewise will have to trust their own judgement.
Don

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #76 – February 11, 2018, 07:54:47 pm

Dan,

$66.86 here

http://www.filterspro.com/detail_2.cfm?part=2671719

Roger

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #77 – February 11, 2018, 08:06:27 pm

Thanks Roger.

It was unclear from previous threads if the blue DBA5029 comes with the gasket on each end of the filter, and if it has the air minder hole in it. Have you purchased this filter w this number? (I read the debate about air flow in/out and the bLue model number debate)

I'm between ordering the standard Donaldson P14-8043 from Ryder $46.16, or the blue one. It's not the cost difference concerning me, but whether the blue has the 2 gaskets attached at each end and the filter minder hole like the standard filter does. I plan to order ASAP so it will get my location before we move on down the road.

Thanks!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #78 – February 11, 2018, 09:36:06 pm

Dan, see the email from Cummins that I forwarded to you. The 5029 should be the right one.

Roger

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #79 – February 11, 2018, 09:38:41 pm

It did not come with a gasket on the small end and has no hole for the filter minder. My filter minder wasn't working properly anyway, so I just removed the small end gasket from the old filter and glued it on to the new one just to make sure that the compression would be the same (though I suspect it would be adequate without the small end gasket) and am doing without the filter minder for now. I plan to replace the filter minder and at that time I will revisit the the choice of filter. One option would be to relocate the filter minder suction source elsewhere in the intake piping and plugging the hole in the filter housing cap. I haven't decided as yet.
Don

Quote from: AC7880 – February 11, 2018, 06:56:05 pm

Don,
Did you ever order the Donaldson DBA5029 air filter? Did it have the gaskets on both ends, and the air minder small hole?

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #80 – August 10, 2022, 08:31:42 am

I know this is an old blog here, but thought I would post here instead of starting a new one.

I decided to change my air filter as it had been 3 years since before and when I pulled the filter that MOT had replaced, it was a Fleetguard 1837. Not sure what the difference is between the 1837 and the 1838, but now, I am wondering???

I ordered a Donaldson P150694. It did not come with the small hole in the end for the filter minder, so I punched one in and it did not come with the small end seal, so will add that as well. With all the discussions on here in the past 6 to 7 years, it was so confusing on inside, outside, vs outside in, I'm lost, which is about right! Now, I am afraid to install this new filter without posting my confusion and frustrations! Help is required! Thanks in advance!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #81 – August 10, 2022, 10:13:48 am

So, you have to see if the dirt collects on the outside or inside of the filter. Ours brings the unfiltered air in to the filter housing and then sucks it though so the ourside gets dirty. When we bought ours, you could not see the filter as it had never been changed in about 60K miles.

I just used an icepick, hitting it with my hand to punch the hole. I took a razor blade and went between the filter and the gasket until I had gone all the way around.

My old posts show the process.

I glued it on with silicone.

Works like a champ.

Pierce

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #82 – August 10, 2022, 10:23:35 am

Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – August 10, 2022, 10:13:48 am

So, you have to see if the dirt collects on the outside or inside of the filter. Ours brings the unfiltered air in to the filter housing and then sucks it though so the ourside gets dirty. When we bought ours, you could not see the filter as it had never been changed in about 60K miles.

I just used an icepick, hitting it with my hand to punch the hole. I took a razor blade and went between the filter and the gasket until I had gone all the way around.

My old posts show the process.

I glued it on with silicone.

Works like a champ.

Pierce

X2
Don't forget to inspect or just replace the vacuator valve. Its old. Clean all the dirt from the inside of the filter housing being careful to not permit any into outlet towards engine. 🐿 I also like to put a little silicone grease on seal. Last time I tried to order the preferred blue filter they had been discontinued
Scott

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #83 – August 10, 2022, 10:26:48 am

Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – August 10, 2022, 10:13:48 am

So, you have to see if the dirt collects on the outside or inside of the filter. Ours brings the unfiltered air in to the filter housing and then sucks it though so the ourside gets dirty. When we bought ours, you could not see the filter as it had never been changed in about 60K miles.

I just used an icepick, hitting it with my hand to punch the hole. I took a razor blade and went between the filter and the gasket until I had gone all the way around.

My old posts show the process.

I glued it on with silicone.

Works like a champ.

Pierce

Pierce, it collects on the outside of the filter. MOT installed a Fleetguard 1837 and I can't find it in my search. I ordered the Donalson filter, but also can't find where this was the correct one or not! Donaldson P150694

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #84 – August 10, 2022, 10:29:45 am

Quote from: dsd – August 10, 2022, 10:23:35 am

X2
Don't forget to inspect or just replace the vacuator valve. Its old. Clean all the dirt from the inside of the filter housing being careful to not permit any into outlet towards engine. 🐿 I also like to put a little silicone grease on seal. Last time I tried to order the preferred blue filter they had been discontinued
Scott

Scott; I ordered and replace that vacuator valve and also the new filter. Just want to make sure that is the correct filter for our application. Donaldson P150694 is what I have now to install. Had to punch a hole in the small end for the filter minder and will have to add the gasket that was on the Fleetguard to the new one to make a good seal. There are many threads on this and it got really confusing to say the least with filters. Just don't want to make a mistake!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #85 – August 10, 2022, 10:40:58 am

Joe, I think your coach takes a Donaldson P14-8043. You might check the tag on the bottom on the air filter can to confirm. That filter comes with the gasket in place, small hole, and cover gasket

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Reply #86 – August 10, 2022, 10:43:43 am

Quote from: bbeane – August 10, 2022, 10:40:58 am

Joe, I think your coach takes a Donaldson P14-8043. You might check the tag on the bottom on the air filter can to confirm.

Bruce, I looked but did not see a tag! It seems I can't find that filter either, but will look again, thank you!!

Found that part on Amazon and will order it. Thanks again!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #87 – August 10, 2022, 10:58:17 am

Quote from: juicesqueezer – August 10, 2022, 10:26:48 am

Pierce, it collects on the outside of the filter. MOT installed a Fleetguard 1837 and I can't find it in my search. I ordered the Donalson filter, but also can't find where this was the correct one or not! Donaldson P150694

Joe,

I bought a Donaldson Blue from a Forum Cummins owner. He measured it and I compared it to our existing filter. They were the same so I had him send it. Easy R&R. So, check the number from my post and other Cummins owners here on the forum. I'm going to be due for a change next year so will pick up one soon.

GV owners should check theirs much more frequently as the filter sucks in everything the rear wheels throw up. Foretravel finally ran a big tube across the side radiator and up a foot sometime in 1993 to cure this engine duster. Probably the worst idea for an air cleaner intake in the history of the world.

Joe, just make sure to measure the length so it matches the old one and with the rubber gasket, you will feel the gasket when you push on the end cover secure it and then tighten the four nuts. I installed a new restriction gauge so I glance at it when checking the oil. It records the highest reading but if driven the the rain or fog, it may record a higher restriction so should be reset and driven before changing the filter. Detroits, Cummins and CATs all have different maximum restrictions so look at the chart

Photo #1 shows what the Roots blower and turbo do to a damp/wet filter.

Pierce

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #88 – August 10, 2022, 11:13:44 am

I should have mentioned that the Donaldson blue construction is vastly better than the Fleetgard or Wix. One member lost a $30K engine (dusted) because of air filter failure.

dba5029 donaldson blue at DuckDuckGo

Pierce

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #89 – August 10, 2022, 11:15:11 am

Pierce, I went on the Donalson website and when I plugged in the DBA 5029, nothing came up in the search. Has the number since changed? I would really like to do the blue if possible!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #90 – August 10, 2022, 11:23:25 am

Quote from: juicesqueezer – August 10, 2022, 11:15:11 am

Pierce, I went on the Donalson website and when I plugged in the DBA 5029, nothing came up in the search. Has the number since changed? I would really like to do the blue if possible!

I was told by a 3rd party that they had discontinued it.
Donaldson Air Filter

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #91 – August 10, 2022, 11:27:27 am

Don't know if this is old stock.

Donaldson DBA5029 Air Filters | Automotive & Truck Parts | 1877ForParts.com

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #92 – August 10, 2022, 11:33:41 am

Quote from: craneman – August 10, 2022, 11:27:27 am

Don't know if this is old stock.

Donaldson DBA5029 Air Filters | Automotive & Truck Parts | 1877ForParts.com

Thanks Chuck; guess I still don't know all the parts warehouses to go to! Nice find and that one is tapered as well. Appreciate the feed!

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #93 – August 10, 2022, 12:04:56 pm

Donaldson DBA5029

$108 in stock. Donaldson is still listing them. Expect short supply like everything else.

Pierce

Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #94 – August 10, 2022, 09:56:17 pm

My last change I used this filter (following). Has gasket for both ends and the hole for filter minder. Dirt collects on outside, clean air to engine from inside. Donaldson P148043 Filter

Checked it this week. Outside loaded with dust/dirt, inside clean. Cleaned the housing, ordered new filter. Filter minder was still OK, but I am changing it.

And I just ordered a new one, now double the price from 2 years ago. Amazon.com: Donaldson P148043 Filter : Automotive

$98.81 with free prime shipping.

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Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #95 – August 10, 2022, 11:17:42 pm

Quote from: craneman – August 10, 2022, 11:27:27 am

Don't know if this is old stock.

Donaldson DBA5029 Air Filters | Automotive & Truck Parts | 1877ForParts.com

Story of my life, no add to cart button on that particular item
Scott
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Re: Air Filter Element Pricing

Reply #96 – August 10, 2022, 11:24:44 pm

I'll give them a call tomorrow.

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Reply #97 – August 11, 2022, 08:43:35 am

X2 Scott I couldn't get it to work either--said "IN STOCK" but no add to cart. Thanks Chuck
Chris

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