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Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #50
Only issue with a Napa replacement is that the rotor came out in three pieces.

No idea if anything else brake wise is damaged.  Pads still there but probably scraped up...

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #51
Bob?
In restless dreams I walked alone.
Narrow streets of cobblestone.


'93 U225
Build 4337
'14 CRV Toad

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #52
Great.
First we kill off Nomadic Nubian,,,,,,,
Now Bob is toast!
In restless dreams I walked alone.
Narrow streets of cobblestone.


'93 U225
Build 4337
'14 CRV Toad

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #53
The rotor I got from NAPA was a genuine Merritor rotor. 
1998 U270 34'

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #54
Went to visit brad and Phyllis at the dunes.  Hospitality was in full force as we both were taken for rides in the dunes..

More to follow.  Too much excitement
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #55
For all of you waiting with baited breath to see if the rumors of our early demise are true they are not.

We are in a rest area in Utah for the night after around 415 miles today.

The shop was nice enough as there never was a ticket created in their shop to put the wheels back on and cage the parking brake and cap the brake line.

Slowly, cautiously increased speed.  Coach runs like normal.

Only difference is the 10 to zero speed reduction with cold brakes.

Takes more pedal pushing than normal.

Back to normal speeds but bring cautious about distancing myself from traffic.

As long as it is a rear it seems to be doable to,disable one brake. 

That being said the weak,parking brake requires flat ground to hold well and as mentioned here an emergency stop would be problematic

I think the rear rotor had cracked before as I noticed an increased grinding noise level recently before this 2300 mile trip.

Judging by the gouges in the one side of the rotor I assume that side had an unlevel surface and the crack must have protruded enough to grind against the hard pad.

500 miles through Vegas left for tomorrow.

Diesel went up,from $2.39 two weeks ago at the Fillmore ,Utah maverick fuel station to $2.59 today

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #56
Be safe! If you have wheel chocks, use them when parked.  Just don't forget about them.
John M. 
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #57
To remove a broken inner Bud wheel lug nut, you need to take outer wheel off and at the broken lug nut screw a outer lug nut on the broken inner lug nut as best you can and weld them together. Then you can turn inner lug off using impact on nut that you welded to it. I have done this many times when I worked on heavy trucks a few years ago.
Bill
Wild Bill Colston
1997 Class A Towing 2016 ford F150 XLT extended cab with Golf cart in 8 ft bed or a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Retired Aircraft Maint Tech A&P Line Crew Chief
Pilots lisc--------Commercial and Multi Eng

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #58
Was not stripped or broken.  The shops snap on gun would not remove the one nut.  Thanks for the welding tip.
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #59
That good, any shop with a one inch impact should be able to remove it then.
Bill
Wild Bill Colston
1997 Class A Towing 2016 ford F150 XLT extended cab with Golf cart in 8 ft bed or a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Retired Aircraft Maint Tech A&P Line Crew Chief
Pilots lisc--------Commercial and Multi Eng

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #60
That's what they had.  A long air line probably reduced its power just enough to not rip it off
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #61
And large id line. A lot of places just use the 3/8 line that the normal air tools run on. Smart money is to put in a dedicated 1/2 or 5/8 port with that size hose to get enough air to a 1 inch gun.
Toby a 94 u280
Cummins 8.3
6 speed Allison
Exhaust brake


Adopted by Derek and Annabelle

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #62
I knew better but did not need to antagonize them. A hundred feet of 3/8" line with small ends doomed this.

One inner was way overtight.  They got the others off slowly.  Gave up.  Put it together.  Block the wheel.

The shop foreman was paranoid about liabity until he  found nothing was in their computer and no paperwork has been done.

I was a ghost. Good

As long as I tipped the mechanic per the owner she was cool about trusting me to know what I was doing.

Made it home today at 4:30.  915 miles since yesterday mid morning.

Cold brake slow speed stopping was much harder. 

Everything else was ok

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #63
Home sweet home, sleep may come easy after your ordeal.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #64
Happy Ending to a Harrowing Tale.  ^.^d
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #65
Thanks for all of your help and advise. Would have been much less of a safe drive home without it. 

Now I need a good source for the rotors and pads and maybe the brake chambers themselves

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #66
After I bought rotor from NAPA (they had it in warehouse, so I got it next day) for $299 or $399, I found one on ebay for like $100 new in box! Just my luck.
1998 U270 34'

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #67
Took the coach in today for a Tuesday appointment and in passing their parking lot noticed two new freightliner chassis coaches with the drive rear wheels off. ,

Service advisor thinks that the rear drum brakes had the wrong parts installed new by .Freightliner as the brakes over stroked.

Can't tighten up the slack adjusters to allow full drum brake shoe contact.

2.000 and 3,000 mile new coaches that my service dealer caught on the required safety inspection.

Advisor said the chassis's serial number were quite a bit apart so there may be a lot of these chassis out there.

Apparently the Budd Alcoa wheels are no longer made for our 97 but the big fmca tire dealer who mounted mine had a single spare rim hiding in the back of his buildings and will mount my good tire on his replacement rim when the shop gets the rear tires off hopefully tomorrow, 

Replacing both rotors and pads.  Will see if anything else was damaged by the rotor failure.

Will save the gouged rim for someone's future use as these are not available. 

Thanks again for the knowledgeable help.  Got us home.  Safely.

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #68
Shop said this morning that meritor only suggests the helper springs on the front axle?

Plus they had to pull the rear hubs as the rotors bolt to the hubs?

No access for power tools without pulling the hubs and then replacing the seals?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #69
I had helper springs installed on my rears when I replaced rotors/pads a couple of years ago.
1996 U295 36' WTBI

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #70
I wonder when they changed to "front axle" for the helper springs. When I talked to Meritor 4 years ago they said all axles? I have helper springs on all four axles, cant see how it can hurt anything. As always DWMYFG.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #71
I bet if you call back and talk to a different person, you'll get a different answer.
1996 U295 36' WTBI

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #72
For those who may need the "Budd Alcoa wheels" which were used until 1997 or 1998, you may find  them available at Pete's Tire in California. The manager told me at their booth during the Quartzsite RV show a couple years ago that they have Budd wheels which were removed to install the super wide Michelin rear 22.5 tires.
Wyatt
96 U320 40 WTFE, build 4943
84 Toyota Supra towd
2015 Jeep Wrangler towd
Victoria, BC, Canada

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #73
Good source.  Thsnks

My tire guys rim was new, 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Broken disk brake rotor

Reply #74
The PO on my coach had purchased the springs, but had been talked out of installing them by Wayne. I took them to MOT, had them installed on all four. I had a disk hang going between Silverton & Ouray, I'd put them on the steering wheel if I even suspected it MAY prevent a recurrence of that trip.
Dave W. (AKA Toyman )
'03, 270, 36', Build 6095, Pulling whatever I hook it to.

"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."
Dr Seuss