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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #25 –
Trent why not glue to sub floor and use an air stapler. Pour white glue 100% then the 3/8th ply and staple away. Makes for fast very stable floor and stronger.
John H
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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #26 –
John,
 
If, as I fear, I am running into metal at the 3/4" point (especially near the edges), how would the staples fare?
 
Would 3/4" be a long enough staple in 3/8" ply over 1/2" ply?
 
Thanks for your advice,
 
Trent
Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #27 –
Had carpet, put down ceramic - maybe 800 pounds more weight.

Later took it out and put in luxury vinyl. Saved the weight, better look, warmer under foot.

Having had wood, ceramic, venial and carpet - here is my preference

  • luxury vinyl, grouted at 1/8"
  • wood
  • Carpet
  • Ceramic

Actually, would never have carpet or ceramic again, unless it looked great and was in a coach I was buying used.

Tim Fiedler

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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #28 –
I encountered the same issue when I was screwing down my 1/4" underlayment. I hit " something", and IMMMEDIATELY backed off. My fix...since I had used subfloor adhesive to avoid " squeaks ", was simply to move away and use shorter screws!!
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #29 –
Really like the transverse install.  Had to smile at the wider rationale as I went the other way wanting it to look longer.  Also like the bambo grain pattern. 
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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #30 –
I'm sure you said this somewhere but maybe I missed it.  What's the thought process with the new layer of plywood?  With "The Steel Plate" covered by a layer of decently thick plywood, I would think the original plywood would need to be in pretty bad shape to need a new layer over top?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I'm just trying to learn what the benefit is.  My plywood was in great shape when I uncovered it.  The toilet plywood was in the worst shape, and even that I was able to cut&sand rather than replace.
James
w/ DW Erin, sons Gideon and Tobias, cats Oscar & Oliver
Fulltime 1999 U270 34' #5508

Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Blinded04 –
What's the thought process with the new layer of plywood?
In my case, it was to bring the carpeted area up to the level of the top of the tile. I will then install new luxury vinyl planks over the plywood and the tile to appear as one continuous floor.

Trent
Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #32 –
The original plywood subfloor is in good shape throughout our coach. Well, that is except for the area that was wood in front of the sink... by the time the demo was finished, I had some divots to repair. For that repair, I used West Systems epoxy with some filler and fiberglass cloth. I do believe that that area is stronger than ever now. Anyway, for the Bamboo flooring, approx. ½" thick, I used ¼" rolled cork underpayment, making a floor that is ¾" proud of the subfloor. When it came time to replace the carpet in the cockpit area, I chose some floating luxury vinyl tile that is about a just under a ¼" thick, a layer of quarter inch ACX plywood, and some 5/16" roll rubber gym flooring under the vinyl. So in my case, the plywood was put in to make all the flooring surface at the same leveI. I could have used plywood by itself to get really close, but I wanted the sound dampening effect of the super dense rubber to take the place of the soft black vinyl with a lead layer that Foretravel used. The original stuff was deteriorating and was to resilient to use as an under layment for my flooring choices.
Don
Quote from: Blinded04 –
I'm sure you said this somewhere but maybe I missed it.  What's the thought process with the new layer of plywood?  With "The Steel Plate" covered by a layer of decently thick plywood, I would think the original plywood would need to be in pretty bad shape to need a new layer over top?
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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #33 –
I put the 3/8 down to stiffen the sub floor for ceramic. 3/4 staples are fine if you use glue at 100% coverage.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #34 –
The subfloor at the opening at the top of the stairs has a slot for the cover to slide into. The top of that opening consists of a 1/4" steel ledger with 3/8" plywood over it. The ledger covers the length of the entire opening, but I do not know how wide it is. Although I do wear safety glasses while stapling, I do not want to hit that 1/4" steel plate.
 
Does anyone know how wide that 1/4" steel ledger is?
 
If not, I can just drill some 1/16" holes into the plywood until it stops hitting the steel plate. Probably should do that anyway to confirm whatever we think. Since I have already asked, I will leave the question for this august body to ponder.
 
Thanks,
 
Trent

Trent and Jean Eyler
2000  U295  4003  WTFE  ISC  350
Build#5603 MC#17385

Re: Replacing Old Carpeting with New Flooring

Reply #35 –
The steel plate is at least as deep and wide as the aluminum step cover is. That slot you refer to is just below the level of the subfloor plus the thickness (¼") of the steel plate. The reason it is there is because (my speculation) Foretravel wanted to have the step cover as close to the finished floor level as possible. This meant that there couldn't be any of the 1.5" square tube framing in the space occupied by the step cover while it is retracted. As it affects the depth of the fasteners, the sub floor in our coach (if I recall correctly) I believe is ⅝" but for sure is at least ½".
Don
Quote from: TulsaTrent –
Does anyone know how wide that 1/4" steel ledger is?
 Trent
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2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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